Subject: Re: Mayor Adams Is Panicking
LurkerMom: I don't need a screaming banshee insisting I am wrong along with her insulting demeanor insisting my sources of information are nothing but lies due to it coming from conservative outlets. She ignores the fact multiple news sources, right, left, middle are reporting the same news topic.

But they're not reporting the news in the same way.

Your sources make false claims: Adams is "panicking", running around like a mad man, and has abandoned New York City's sanctuary status.

Or you selectively quote your source: "Mayor Eric Adams is furious, CBS2's Marcia Kramer reported Friday". But then you neglect to explain that the person Adams is furious at is Texas governor Abbott.

You could easily have quoted this from your own link: "Governor Greg Abbott is continuing to play with the lives of human beings. We think this is cruel, it's disgusting and it's pure cowardice," said Manuel Castro, commissioner of the mayor's Office of Immigrant Affairs.

A spokesperson for Adams called the move "an embarrassing stain on the state of Texas," but stressed that as a right to shelter city, he would welcome the asylum seekers with open arms.


You also wrote that "Liberals/dems from Biden on down do not care only until it affects their town, you know....like NYC and Martha's Vineyard."

But as NPR reported: After the unexpected arrival of nearly 50 migrants flown Wednesday into Martha's Vineyard, local organizations and community members have been providing around-the-clock support.

Florida governor DeSantis pulled a cruel stunt (the migrants weren't even from Florida, right?) and the people in Mass. came out to meet the migrants, feeding and housing them.


You can complain that your sources are ridiculed but generally you have questionable sources. Just run them through Media Bias Fact Check and read how and why they're questionable. Media Bias Fact Check doesn't have any axes to grind and doesn't play favorites.

Most people here are reasonable and informative. As this thread wandered, people have provided solid facts. Goofyhoofy addressed the myth of 'catch and release' with solid data. Others have addressed additional questions and concerns. And yes, some here have had their fill of false claims that have been repeatedly corrected and say so in no uncertain terms.

When people correct me over and over again with facts that I cannot refute except with extremely biased opinions or questionable sources I have to stop and say, "Well, I guess I got that wrong."

I have a SIL who liked to send me anti-vax messaging. At first, I replied with facts and links and evidence, encouraging her to read them. She'd reply with another conspiracy-based article. I'd reply with more facts. She'd switch sometimes to 5G and how it was going to give us all cancer. Eventually, I gave up.

She reminded me of this terrific John Cheever short story, "Goodbye, My Brother," about a man's brother, Lawrence, who sees the worst in everything. It ends like this:

"They left for the mainland the next morning, taking the six o'clock boat. Mother got up to say goodbye, but she was the only one, and it is a harsh and an easy scene to imagine'the matriarch and the changeling, looking at each other with a dismay that would seem like the powers of love reversed. I heard the children's voices and the car go down the drive, and I got up and went to the window, and what a morning that was! Jesus, what a morning! The wind was northerly. The air was clear. In the early heat, the roses in the garden smelled like strawberry jam. While I was dressing, I heard the boat whistle, first the warning signal and then the double blast, and I could see the good people on the top deck drinking coffee out of fragile paper cups, and Lawrence at the bow, saying to the sea, 'Thalassa, thalassa,' while his timid and unhappy children watched the creation from the encirclement of their mother's arms. The buoys would toll mournfully for Lawrence, and while the grace of the light would make it an exertion not to throw out your arms and swear exultantly, Lawrence's eyes would trace the black sea as it fell astern; he would think of the bottom, dark and strange, where full fathom five our father lies.

Oh, what can you do with a man like that? What can you do? How can you dissuade his eye in a crowd from seeking out the cheek with acne, the infirm hand; how can you teach him to respond to the inestimable greatness of the race, the harsh surface beauty of life; how can you put his finger for him on the obdurate truths before which fear and horror are powerless? The sea that morning was iridescent and dark. My wife and my sister were swimming ' Diana and Helen ' and I saw their uncovered heads, black and gold in the dark water. I saw them come out and I saw that they were naked, unshy, beautiful, and full of grace, and I watched the naked women walk out of the sea."