Subject: Re: Let’s See If This Pans Out for Putin
This is not a war that's going to be won by having the bigger army; else, Putin would have already won.

Define "win". Putin doesn't need to roll tanks into Kyiv to get what he wants (for right now).

We've already committed NATO to the fight -

No we haven't.
"committing NATO to the fight" means NATO planes and SAMs shooting down Russian planes and it means NATO soldiers shooting Russians in the face on the front lines.

Are you willing to do that?

Ukraine's Air Force doesn't "not count" just because it was given to them by us. <--- nobody said it did, nice try.

No, he's not. LOL.

One more time: Zelensky lacks the dudes, the guns and the money to push Putin out of the Ukraine. Increasingly, he's having problems just holding the lines as they are:

https://abcnews.go.com/Interna...

And at home, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy's apparent efforts to weaken anti-corruption bodies sparked street protests, while the armed forces' persistent manpower strain is necessitating difficult conversations about widening conscription brackets and hardening responses to draft-dodging.

As for this:
What are you talking about? The two of you are banging the drum about how "history tells us about small countries beating big ones" while simultaneously forgetting that loads of big countries have tended to pretty success in curbstomping small ones. This is your argument, not mine.

The Ukrainian Army is the Wolverines - not some future resistance force, the resistance force that Russia has been unable to defeat or even move very far for three years now.

I think you aren't getting the difference between an "insurgency" and the main force engaged on the battlefield. Insurgent-type attacks or as the other guy likes to say "asymmetric" tactics are the car bombs the Ukrainians are using to remind collaborators that they can be reached out to and touched. The main battle force is where the Abrams tanks and guys wearing blue and yellow are fighting the guys wearing red, white and blue.

Once again. You're a dad in Mariupol and Putin has your kids in Siberia. How willing are you to plant IEDs all day?

What you and 1pg are both REALLY forgetting is that the Russians aren't the Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan. Are either of you operating under some illusion that Putin wants to win hearts and minds in the Ukraine?