Subject: Re: Does anyone worry about airplanes?
The Delta plane that flipped----heck, wasn't even in America! And, well, the runway seemed just a tad slippery to say the least.

I had read that in the Toronto crash their rate of descent was way too high, but the investigation will have to conclude that:
https://toronto.citynews.ca/20...

You can see them make a pretty hard landing, which could have wrecked the landing gear. They'll figure it out.