Subject: Re: Sweden
DopesterRemember, the only reason they're really all for giving Ukraine anything is that they think Republicans are against it.

No. Occam's razor - we want to support democracy, see NATO as our allies, and don't want to let either down. You love to post mischaracterizations.

Let's say there was no Ukraine conflict. Suppose we said in that case, "A lot of US ammunition manufacturing dates from literally World War II. That along with the nation's (glaring lack of) shipbuilding resources is something that needs serious investing". There would be *zero* support from the people current wringing their hands.

How so? You know the big military buildup that Reagan gets complete credit for started under Carter. Carter? !#@%$&^%$ Carter? Yes, and Reagan acknowledged it. My father retired a full bird Colonel from the Army. 30 years. The line of military service goes back to the revolution and I'm a member of the SAR. Plenty of us believe in the rules based order that has developed to keep the peace, and also know we have to be ready.