Subject: Re: What do they call….??
"…a negotiation that does not include both belligerent sides in a conflict?

Answer- unconditional surrender

Trump is trying the same sort of thing with the Russia- Ukraine conflict that he did with the Middle east in 2020….and we saw how that worked out.

Ukraine has already said they will not be bound by any “peace deal” that excludes them from the negotiations.


This upcoming “deal” looks less like Chamberlain in 38 vis a vis Czechoslovakia in 38…. And more like Stalin-Ribbentrop dividing up Poland in 39.

We’ll be decades living down the shame of it." - Bill

It will be worse than even that. In Munich Hegseth and Vance pretty much laid out the Russian position as their opening bid!!!! It is definitely unconditional surrender. It is way weaker than Trump's poor Middle East Deal and his Afghan Deal. Both of those were only negotiated with one side and it showed when they failed as soon as they were implemented. So Trump decides to triple down and only negotiate with Russia. In no world does that turn out well.

Yesterday I heard someone make a joke that given Trump's poor track record of negotiation, he will end up paying Russia money to rebuild the territory they stole as an aggressor. It was a joke.... I think.