Subject: Re: Texiera on what the d's should do
The server is the intent. Then there’s Anthony Weiner’s laptop that had copies of everything on it…how’d Huma get all that stuff?

The server isn't the intent. We've gone over this several times: the criminal statutes relating to classified information make it a crime to possess classified information you don't have clearance for and to remove classified information from where it's supposed to be - they do not make it a crime to possess classified information outside a secure location. They're just not written that way. So to prove a crime by someone with high levels of clearance, you need to prove that they're the ones who sent the information, not that they received it.

You are never going to agree with me on that - but it's not relevant to this conversation. Because if Clinton committed a crime (as you believe), then it is inarguable that Hegseth and Waltz committed a crime by sending classified information about a pending national defense operation over an unsecure app. You're the one with the more expansive view of what the statutes criminalize - which should mean that you would regard Waltz and Hegseth as criminals. But I don't think you're ever going to acknowledge that.

You don’t know that.

DOD says so:

Unmanaged 'messaging apps,' including any app with a chat feature, regardless of the primary function, are NOT authorized to access, transmit, process non-public DoD
information. This includes but is not limited to messaging, gaming, and social media apps. (i.e., iMessage, WhatsApps, Signal).

https://dodcio.defense.gov/Por...

....as well as all of the government officials who have commented on this, both Republican and Democratic. No one has come out and said that this is permissible - if this had actually been approved, you would have heard someone making that argument right now. Even at the highest levels of government, the response has not been to claim that this was allowed: Hegseth's response was to deny that this had even happened (the idiot - he didn't realize that the government had already confirmed that the messages Goldberg received were authentic), and Trump's response today was to say that Waltz had learned his lesson. Neither argued that there was nothing wrong because Signal is an authorized app - because it is not!.

There's no way out of this, Dope. If what Clinton did was a crime, then what Hegseth and Waltz did was absolutely a crime. Honestly, if what Clinton did was a crime then everyone on that Signal chat committed a crime as well - because they all did what Clinton did, which is receive classified information in an unsecured channel. I do not think that Susie Wiles or Marco Rubio committed a crime, for the same reason I don't think Clinton did - the criminal statutes don't cover possessing classified information in an unsecure location if you have clearance to have it. But since you think Clinton committed crimes, you should believe that all of the chat participants committed crimes here.