Subject: Re: Oklahoma and Massachusetts
Personally, I think there's a non-trivial chance that Trump is unable to pull off the large-scale deportation, and will instead just have some very highly publicized efforts that don't end up moving a whole lot more people than have been moved historically.

I agree with this. And I'll get blunt, with a little bit of class warfare tossed in the mix.

All these simpletons like Dope and BHM and LM, along with their child-man-god Trump, think it's easy. Just deport the folks here illegally. And that would be following the letter of the law, which is fine. The problem comes in actually doing that.

It's almost exactly the same as building the wall. The one Mexico didn't pay for.

You want to deport more people? Fine. Who is going to do that? If you don't hire more agents, you have to divert the existing agents from what they are currently doing. Which is most likely keeping people from entering illegally in the first place. If you stop that job, you're just moving the problem from one place to another. More people going out, but more coming in. Good for PR - "look at all the people we're deporting" - bad for actually reducing the number of illegal aliens in the country. If anyone starts tracking who was deported, you'll see the same people being deported multiple times.

So you really need more agents. Where's the money going to come from to pay for these additional agents? Tax cuts was another one of the promises. So it's not coming from there. What other program are you going to cut? And how will the budget cut affect that program?

What about the children of those here illegally? Some number of those children will be US citizens by birth. That's in the 14th amendment (a response to the USSC Dred Scott decision). You can't deport US citizens, even if you don't like the 14th amendment. That's going to put a bunch of kids in the foster care system, which is run by each state, not the feds. That means that system will need more funding. So states will need to raise taxes to pay for expanding their foster care systems - unless they can talk the Feds into paying for some of it and pushing the needed tax increase or program cuts onto the feds.

Another question - how are these illegal aliens providing for themselves while living in the US? Some are probably resorting to crime, but that's also the fastest way to get deported, even today. A larger number are working and making money in some way. Some will be using stolen or shared social security numbers to get a job. Some are working in the underground economy, getting paid in cash or bartering their services for things they need. That's very real contributions to the economy, and will be a very real hit to the economy if it stops. I don't see things utterly crashing, but there will likely be some price increases in some items.

What about the employers of these people? Are there going to be consequences for them? For our uneducated dolts, employers are required to obtain some proof that a new hire can legally work in the US. There's an entire verification system built up around this requirement. If these people are not able to legally work in the US, how did their employer fail in this required check?

Oh, I forgot. These are some of those nasty, burdensome regulations that JCs need to have removed. Get these overbearing regulations out of the way so the job creators can make more money.


So - I agree with albaby. None of this will actually work because no one with any brains is going to be working on it. There will be lots of noise and bluster and fanfare as the first load of illegals are frog marched across the border into Mexico. While just out of shot, they are walking down the street and back in to the US through that Big Beautiful Wall that doesn't work.

This all reminds me of the popular definition of insanity - trying the same thing over and over and expecting different results. We've tried Trump before, and he didn't deliver on immigration. I doubt he can deliver this time, either. It's just too complicated for his tiny brain. But he sure has managed to brainwash his brainless idiot followers into thinking that complex issues have simple answers.

--Peter

PS - I never bothered to talk about WHY all those folks are wanting to come into the US, traveling long distances at some significant personal risk to do so. But that doesn't matter. Just put up a bigger beautifuller wall with all the money Mexico is showering us with to pay for it. Sheesh.