Subject: Re: To Be clear
"No, one can agree that it was a riot gone bad even an even more clear-eyed and neutral way. The emotional response is the "insurrection", "traitor" and other stuff." - Dope

Sure, but in order to reach that conclusion, you would have to ignore the fact that Roger Stone was communicating with the Proud Boys and Oathkeepers beforehand and those are some of the people who helped turned the mob violent. You would also have to ignore the fact that Steve Bannon knew what was coming beforehand. You would also have to ignore Trump and people in his orbit trying to convince Mike Pence to overturn a free and fair election. Then you would also have to ignore Trump taking pleasure at the violence (or at least not being disgusted by it). Then you would have to ignore the fact that Trump didn't mind if the crowd was armed (he wanted no metal detectors for his speech). Then you would also have to ignore all of the fake elector schemes brewed up by those in Trump's orbit. All of those things contribute to the labels of "insurrection".

That seems like an awfully lot of facts to ignore in order to reach the conclusion you want to reach in order to forgive your guy.

Most people don't want to engage in willful ignorance like you do. They would rather look at all of the facts and not ignore that which is inconvenient like you do.

You should read the stuff that came out of the House January 6th committee. There is much more than I presented here. I know you want to just wave your hands and make all of the facts that were presented there disappear. You want to pretend Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger are not conservative (lol that was one of your funnier claims). You want to pretend that all of those people who testified under oath about Trump and his cronies are somehow lying.

But again, I repeat myself. You think willful ignorance is a form of argument. It isn't. Just because you want to ignore obvious facts that you find inconvenient, does not make them go away. It just makes you look like an idiot for ignoring the obvious right in front of your face.