Subject: Re: Trump's fascist tilt
There's no way to have a wall that allows you to avoid these problems. We've talked about this - most the border is the river, and the closest point at which you could build a permanent structure is hundreds of feet from the border. Which means a wall can't prevent people from physically entering the country.

Sorry, but you're just...wrong. There's a reason why Biden keeps suing to stop Texas from putting up barriers and enforcing the law. It's because it's working.

https://www.newsweek.com/greg-....

Texas Governor Greg Abbott said Tuesday that Operation Lone Star, his campaign to block irregular migration, "is working" after U.S. Customs and Border Protection published figures showing a sharp decrease in illegal crossings into the Lone Star State.

Abbott shared an article from a conservative-leaning publication that cited CBP data released on March 22 showing that in the first five months of the 2024 fiscal year (October to February), the number of encounters between migrants suspected of crossing into the U.S. illegally and law enforcement fell by 28 percent in Texas. Over the same period, it increased by 35 percent and 52 percent, respectively, in California and Arizona. Both states have a Democratic governor.

Love the attempt at spin by Newsweak here to try to poison the source. The fact remains. You guys keep saying "We've proven X" when you...haven't.

We have, and Democrats want, actual law enforcement on the border. If you cross the border unlawfully, you can and will be detained. That's law enforcement. And just like actual law enforcement, people who are detained by border law enforcement are entitled to judicial process before a punishment is imposed. You can't throw them out of the country before they're processed.

democrats do not want law enforcement on the border. Know how I know that? Stuff like this

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/t...

The Biden administration on Monday filed a lawsuit against Texas over floating barriers that state officials have deployed in the middle of the Rio Grande, seeking to force the state to remove the buoys that federal officials argue have endangered migrants and Border Patrol agents alike.

(This by the way invalidates your argument about no way to build barriers near the Rio Grande).

You'll no doubt respond with an argument that throws up its hands and says, "Well we can't block the river..." Because Reasons but since we own half of it...yes we can.


Again, you're missing the key feature of messaging bills. HR 2 passed the House because Schumer wouldn't put it on the floor. If the GOP had control of the Senate, then HR 2 wouldn't have passed the House. Because it's got stuff in it that more than 2 House Republicans don't want to actually become law - but they'll vote for it when whipped, because it can't become law.

Huh? More than 2? Only 1 of the two objected to the bill because it restricted migrants. Massie's reason what that he didn't want e-verify used against US Citizens.

If a watered-down bill appeared from the Senate you'd see GOP'er s votes against it...likely because it would be crafted to get Murkowski and Romney's votes and therefore would be a weak bill. Not because it was too strong.

You keep saying stuff like that

I keep saying stuff like that Because Biden keeps doing it. This board is amazing for being in abject denial of actual facts.

Biden wants migrants so bad, he's arranging flights to go get them from their home countries:

https://www.usnews.com/news/wo...

You or somebody else is going to say Aha! Dope didn't even read his own source! That Trumpy lie was debunked!! Hahahahahaha! Except you actually have to read this stuff. When you do:

THE FACTS: An article published on Monday by the Center for Immigration Studies examined a major example of how Biden has exercised his parole authority for Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans and Venezuelans.

Each month, U.S. Customs and Border Protection discloses how many people from these four countries were allowed to enter the country. On Jan. 26, the agency reported 327,000 were vetted and authorized for travel. There were more than 67,000 Cubans, 126,000 Haitians, 53,000 Nicaraguans and 81,000 Venezuelans.

And no, I don't care to debate what Trump said. What's relevant here is that Biden is allowing via his parole policy for more and more folks to fly here via his amnesty program.

This isn't even what I referring to. Biden's been transporting migrants all over the country:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politi...

The Department of Homeland Security plans to transport migrants awaiting immigration proceedings from U.S. cities along the southern border farther into the interior of the country, beginning with Los Angeles in the coming weeks, according to internal documents obtained by NBC News.

The plan would alleviate overcrowding along the border, where record numbers of border crossers have overwhelmed the capacity of shelters in some cities, at times leading Customs and Border Protection, or CBP, to release migrants on the street to fend for themselves.

The real reason is to avoid the optics of loads of folks along the border, but whatever.

You can't stop migrants from physically crossing the border, once they've crossed the border they're entitled to be processed

Greg Abbot says hi. Sorry, but you're just wrong here.