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Author: weatherman   😊 😞
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Subject: any evidence that dem candidate matters?
Date: 07/13/2024 3:23 PM
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i see little evidence that there is anything other than

a. anti-biden vote (other than diehard MAGA that would not turn out w/out cult of trump)
b. anti-trump vote (to clarify, this swamps any enthusiasm for candidate xyz. even obama had\needed a substantial headstart to displace the usual suspects.)

and yes, there is reason to believe the marginal voter will be needed to balance the electoral college nonsense.
but it seems impossible to pin down what will determine that with any confidence.

(furthermore, weak evidence that even ~30% of registered independents are ACTUALLY independents\undecided that will vote)

as is, it remains a race of the permanently demented against the sporadically delusional, with the public unable to comprehend it will be surrounding teams that matter exponentially as 4 more years pass.
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Subject: Re: any evidence that dem candidate matters?
Date: 07/13/2024 4:05 PM
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The main evidence is that Democratic downballot candidates were all generally running well ahead of Biden in the other races in battleground states, in some cases by double-digits:

https://www.axios.com/2024/06/23/biden-trump-swing...

This has led some observers to conclude that voters were generally happy to support Democratic candidates, and thus presumably Democratic policies, even while being unhappy with Biden.

He's also had historically bad unfavorability ratings, while other Democratic candidates have had normal ones - which again is a point of evidence that Biden's got some problems specific to him that other candidates don't.

That doesn't mean the Dems would necessarily have a better chance to win the WH if they switch to Harris, though, because some of this might be due to discontent with Biden's policies - and as the Veep, she can't separate from those the way that a downballot candidate can. Ruben Gallego doesn't own Biden's border policy the way that Harris does, for example.
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Author: intercst   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: any evidence that dem candidate matters?
Date: 07/13/2024 4:40 PM
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*** Ruben Gallego doesn't own Biden's border policy the way that Harris does, for example. ***

Sure, but does Harris inherit Joe Biden's position on the genocide in Gaza? If she can plausibly distance herself from that, it might help in Michigan.

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