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Author: knighttof3   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: OT: what does an expanding universe mean?
Date: 04/09/2024 4:53 AM
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And if snakes do, … well, it’s turtles all the way down. Do Amoeba have souls? Why not? They’re “alive”, They react. They gravitate towards light and food don’t they? And what would give amoeba “souls”? The proteins and bacteria and other microscopic things that form life at that level?

The more obvious Occam’s razor answer is that there is no soul.


Soul is an emotionally charged term. How about a sense of identity? I take it as axioms that I exist, there is only one me, and that my mind does not exist outside of my body. (Negate the first and you get the universe is a simulation "theory". Negate the second and you get the Multiverse argument. Negate the third and you get all kinds of weird quasi religious things.)

Mixing metaphors, Occam's razor is a blunt tool 😀 Not a reliable guide to truth.

Why would amoeba not have a sense of identity? Certainly their behavior displays a tendency to want to survive, eat, reproduce. You know, The things that distinguish the living from the nonliving.

It doesn't have to be turtles all the way down. If space, time, and matter can be quantized, maybe there is a quantum of identity. Let's say single cells with nucleus. Below that we cannot communicate with any certainty, say if a virus or a piece of RNA or a molecule /atom/electron had an identity, our mental worlds are too far apart to communicate. So we might as well assume that they do not have identities. Occam's razor!
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