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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: US Intel: Iran Only Set Back Months
Date: 06/24/2025 3:30 PM
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CNN is reporting that the US military strikes on three of Iran’s nuclear facilities did little the core components of the country’s nuclear program and set Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons by only a few months.

The US military strikes on three of Iran’s nuclear facilities last weekend did not destroy the core components of the country’s nuclear program and likely only set it back by months, according to an early US intelligence assessment that was described by four people briefed on it.

The assessment, which has not been previously reported, was produced by the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Pentagon’s intelligence arm. It is based on a battle damage assessment conducted by US Central Command in the aftermath of the US strikes...


In short, Mad King Donald's repeated claims that the strikes “completely and totally obliterated” Iran’s nuclear enrichment facilities are just more in a long, long series of lies.


https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/24/politics/intel-asse...
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Author: wzambon 🐝🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: US Intel: Iran Only Set Back Months
Date: 06/24/2025 3:47 PM
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The US military strikes on three of Iran’s nuclear facilities last weekend did not destroy the core components of the country’s nuclear program and likely only set it back by months, according to an early US intelligence assessment that was described by four people briefed on it.

Looks like the only thing “completely and totally obliterated” was the last shred of Donald Trump’s credibility.

Except with MAGA. They’re impervious.
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Author: Iampops 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: US Intel: Iran Only Set Back Months
Date: 06/24/2025 7:32 PM
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I am guessing Russia and China have noticed that a direct hit by our best bombs failed to destroy the core components of their enrichment facilities.
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Author: OrmontUS 🐝🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: US Intel: Iran Only Set Back Months
Date: 06/24/2025 9:28 PM
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"I am guessing Russia and China have noticed that a direct hit by our best bombs failed to destroy the core components of their enrichment facilities."

Be careful what you wish for - the next step up is a tactical nuke.

Jeff
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: US Intel: Iran Only Set Back Months
Date: 06/24/2025 10:15 PM
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CNN is reporting that the US military strikes on three of Iran’s nuclear facilities did little the core components of the country’s nuclear program and set Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons by only a few months.

CNN? CNN? CNN? CNN? Bwhahahahaha..You watch and believe what CNN reports on?

CNN has been lying to the World since the Gulf War.

World Leaders and many prominent democrats are praising President Trump, our US Air force and
US Navy for their flawless achievement destroying Iran’s nuclear program.

Take a break from your “Mad King Donald” Grimm’s Fairy Tales and enjoy a safe sleep tonight.
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Subject: Re: US Intel: Iran Only Set Back Months
Date: 06/24/2025 10:30 PM
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praising President Trump, our US Air force and US Navy for their flawless achievement destroying Iran’s nuclear program.

ROFLMAO !!!

They tried--and failed. YET AGAIN !!

Did Iran get their nukes from Saddam? Or did GWB give them the nukes? Or was it Spankee ???
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Author: Lambo   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: US Intel: Iran Only Set Back Months
Date: 06/24/2025 10:39 PM
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CNN? CNN? CNN? CNN? Bwhahahahaha..You watch and believe what CNN reports on?


It's a report LM.

Snip:
A preliminary classified U.S. report says the American bombing of three nuclear sites in Iran set back the country’s nuclear program by only a few months, according to officials familiar with the findings.

The strikes sealed off the entrances to two of the facilities but did not collapse their underground buildings, the officials said the early findings concluded.

Before the attack, U.S. intelligence agencies had said that if Iran tried to rush to making a bomb, it would take about three months. After the U.S. bombing run and days of attacks by the Israeli Air Force, the report by the Defense Intelligence Agency estimated that the program had been delayed, but by less than six months.

The report also said that much of Iran’s stockpile of enriched uranium was moved before the strikes, which destroyed little of the nuclear material. Iran may have moved some of that to secret locations...

...Current and former military officials had cautioned before the strike that any effort to destroy the Fordo facility, which is buried more than 250 feet under a mountain, would probably require waves of airstrikes, with days or even weeks of pounding the same spots.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/24/us/politics/ira...
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: US Intel: Iran Only Set Back Months
Date: 06/24/2025 10:43 PM
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Your link is a pay only to access.
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Author: alan81   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: US Intel: Iran Only Set Back Months
Date: 06/24/2025 11:01 PM
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You can find a report from the BBC here, along with statements from many others. Using non US sources tends to make things a bit more factual instead of the yellow journalism you find in US sources.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c20xel1e97gt

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Subject: Re: US Intel: Iran Only Set Back Months
Date: 06/25/2025 1:28 AM
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This damage assessment is as much garbage as Trump's claim of obliteration. 14 big bombs were only meant to punch holes in the most deeply fortified bunkers. Of course they weren't expected to destroy the whole program. Israel killed the top dozen physicists and engineers on the program in the first salvo. Then they had 12 days of open skies to bomb every known site in Iran. That's maybe 100 bombing sorties per day. They must have done serious damage. And it's not about the enriched uranium. You can move 400kg of enriched uranium on the bed of one pickup truck. But 18000 centrifuges, which are delicate precision instruments, can't be moved easily. They were kept at Natanz and Fordow, the crown jewels of the Iranian program, because they are the most fortified. Where would they be moved - to a site that Israel can bomb easily with conventional munitions? Have at it guys. There are other sites, where the design and engineering work to package the bomb on to a ballistic missile is being done. Those were bombed too. It all means that they're probably set back by much more than a few months, with or without the MOPs.
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Date: 06/25/2025 9:02 AM
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Of course they weren't expected to destroy the whole program. Israel killed the top dozen physicists and engineers on the program in the first salvo. Then they had 12 days of open skies to bomb every known site in Iran. That's maybe 100 bombing sorties per day. They must have done serious damage.

To follow up the thought....

SNIP
“Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu hailed the conclusion of Operation Rising Lion against Iran as a watershed moment in Israel’s national security, declaring it a “historic victory,” stating that “we sent Iran’s nuclear program down the drain,” and warning that any effort by Tehran to restore it would be met with “the same determination and strength.”

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/06/24/isra...
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Date: 06/25/2025 12:04 PM
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CNN? CNN? CNN? CNN? Bwhahahahaha..You watch and believe what CNN reports on?

Says the person who only listens to far right wing propaganda and conspiracy theories. You're making yourself miserable for no good reason.
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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: US Intel: Iran Only Set Back Months
Date: 06/25/2025 1:41 PM
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LurkerMom: CNN? CNN? CNN? CNN? Bwhahahahaha..You watch and believe what CNN reports on?

The report was issued by the Defense Intelligence Agency, not CNN. CNN simply reported on what was in the assessment.

Every major news agency has investigated and is reporting that Mad King Donald's claim that Iran's nuclear program was “completely and fully obliterated” is a lie.

AP News, https://apnews.com/article/iran-nuclear-program-mi...: The assessment also suggests that at least some of Iran’s highly enriched uranium, necessary for creating a nuclear weapon, was moved out of multiple sites before the U.S. strikes and survived, and it found that Iran’s centrifuges, which are required to further enrich uranium to weapons-grade levels, are largely intact...

The New York Times, https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/24/us/politics/ira...: Preliminary classified findings indicate that the attack sealed off the entrances to two facilities but did not collapse their underground buildings.

Even Mad King Donald has changed his tune. NPR, https://www.npr.org/2025/06/24/nx-s1-5444303/iran-...: President Trump on Wednesday said that a preliminary U.S. intelligence assessment of the damage caused by U.S. strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities was inconclusive, but said he continues to believe it was severe.

NBC News, https://www.nbcnews.com/world/middle-east/strikes-...: The initial assessment would appear to contradict Trump's and Netanyahu's claims the U.S. attack "obliterated" Iran's nuclear capabilities.

The Guardian, the Washington Post, Reuters, and on and on have similar reporting.

But, sure, cultists cannot doubt the cult leader.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: US Intel: Iran Only Set Back Months
Date: 06/25/2025 2:25 PM
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This damage assessment is as much garbage as Trump's claim of obliteration. 14 big bombs were only meant to punch holes in the most deeply fortified bunkers. Of course they weren't expected to destroy the whole program. Israel killed the top dozen physicists and engineers on the program in the first salvo. Then they had 12 days of open skies to bomb every known site in Iran. That's maybe 100 bombing sorties per day. They must have done serious damage. And it's not about the enriched uranium. You can move 400kg of enriched uranium on the bed of one pickup truck. But 18000 centrifuges, which are delicate precision instruments, can't be moved easily. They were kept at Natanz and Fordow, the crown jewels of the Iranian program, because they are the most fortified.

This. The DIA assessment is very early and doesn't have much to go on.

1) The Israelis are hunting down and killing the people with expertise. Sometimes if the right expert is removed your program can be set back for a long time, and maybe permanently. The Soviet Space program, for example, was irreversibly damaged when Sergei Korolev died in 1966. I'm not saying that Iran is as single-sourced as the Soviets were, but the Israelis are doing damage to the brain trust.

2) Uranium centrifuges are very delicate machines. Using gas centrifugal methods requires very high speeds (due to the low mass of the gas) and as such requires very delicate bearings and mechanical structures. Any shock damage - like dropping 12 30,000lb bombs onto the roof - would likely damage them in ways not easy to fix.
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Subject: Re: US Intel: Iran Only Set Back Months
Date: 06/25/2025 9:51 PM
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The designs of centrifuges used for nuclear enrichment around the world closely guarded secrets.
But it is well known designing to withstand a shock like an earthquake or nearby bomb is difficult.
Both Iran and North Korea supposedly obtained centrifuge designs and centrifuges from Pakistan's Khan Research Laboratory
In September 1981, a powerful earthquake measuring 6.1 on the Richter scale shook Islamabad and the surrounding area. Some four thousand centrifuges operating in the Khan Research Laboratory had crashed. The earthquake had unbalanced the rotors, operating in a vacuum at some 64,000 revolutions per minute (RPMs); they hit their casings and turned to powder, making sounds like hand grenades exploding.

But I think it is prudent to wait a few weeks and let the information consensus override the politically biased initial noise. Remember Pakistan recovered from their earthquake and is believed to have ~170 fission warheads.
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Date: 06/26/2025 12:00 AM
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LM use this in the future:

https://archive.is/
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Date: 06/26/2025 9:22 AM
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The report was issued by the Defense Intelligence Agency, not CNN. CNN simply reported on what was in the assessment. - CO

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The incomplete, premature and unofficial report was leaked, not issued. Most on your side won't hear that part so good job.
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Date: 06/26/2025 9:31 AM
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The incomplete, premature and unofficial report was leaked, not issued. Most on your side won't hear that part so good job.

Well, if the leaked DIA report was in any way false or misleadingly altered from what the DIA actually found, you'd think they would say so. The fact that they have said nothing speaks volumes.
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Date: 06/26/2025 9:35 AM
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Time will tell whether the "The incomplete, premature and unofficial report...." or the final official report that will at some point in the future possibly be released is closer to the truth.
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Subject: Re: US Intel: Iran Only Set Back Months
Date: 06/26/2025 10:15 AM
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The incomplete, premature and unofficial report was leaked, not issued. Most on your side won't hear that part so good job.

This incomplete report was leaked hours AFTER Trump tweeted his “COMPLETELY OBLITERATED” tweet that represented his superior intellect and analysis.

“COMPLETELY OBLITERATED” is now the standard by which loyalty to the regime will be judged. This is the standard of TRUTH that Trump announced on TRUTH SOCIAL, immediately after the bombing.

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Date: 06/26/2025 10:24 AM
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Time will tell whether the "The incomplete, premature and unofficial report...." or the final official report that will at some point in the future possibly be released is closer to the truth.

A mushroom cloud over an isolated stretch of desert in eastern Iran will be the only proof of concept that settles the question of who is lying and who is not.

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Date: 06/26/2025 12:15 PM
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Hmm. Let's think some more about this.
It was always premature to crow about a leaked report 3 days after and declare it GOLD JERRY, GOLD. Especially given the delicate nature of nuclear centrifuges.

Let's have Raizin' (what a great callsign) Cain explain:

https://x.com/Osint613/status/1938215998915510593?...

Gen. Dan “Razin” Caine presented and played a video demonstrating how the GBU-57 bunker busters operate.

“Unlike a normal surface bomb, you won’t see an impact crater because they’re designed to deeply bury and then function … All six weapons at each vent at Fordow went exactly where they were intended to go.”


The US has been developing this for 15 years. Talk about playing the long game.



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speaks volumes.

That is the problem. The RWNJs can't comprehend "VOLUMES". Just shells from an AR15 equipped with auto-fire. THAT gets their attention....
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Especially given the delicate nature of nuclear centrifuges.

Not as sensitive as Impotus Spankee McBoingBoing Bonespurs.

The fun question was never asked--or answered (directly, anyway).

Were the centrifuges RUNNING? Nothing prevented Iran from turning them OFF once they saw the "diversion" from the US. That could cause them to go "HMMM !!! Something's up !! TURN OFF THE CENTIFUGES !!"

Not spinning = no damage to them. Now whoda thunk THAT ??? NOT SPANKEE !!!
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Date: 06/26/2025 1:07 PM
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The fireball that Raizin' is showing might be from a thermobaric weapon. We made those to attack caves in Afghanistan:

https://defensefeeds.com/analysis/weapons/thermoba...

A thermobaric bomb, also known as a thermobaric weapon, vacuum bomb, or fuel-air explosive, is a type of explosive that uses oxygen from the surrounding air to generate a high-temperature explosion.

Unlike conventional bombs that contain both fuel and oxidizer, thermobaric bombs release an aerosol cloud—made of fuel particles—that mixes with atmospheric oxygen before ignition. This results in a powerful blast followed by a pressure wave that lasts longer and spreads wider than standard explosives.

Because of their oxygen-dependent detonation, they are sometimes also referred to as air-fuel bombs or aerosol bombs. The explosion not only burns intensely but also causes severe oxygen depletion in enclosed or semi-enclosed spaces, making them especially lethal in caves, bunkers, or urban environments. This mechanism is what makes thermobaric bomb effects particularly destructive and difficult to survive—even if one is outside the immediate blast zone.


The fireball is only part of the damage - the shock wave throughout Fordow's underground tunnels would have been massive.
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