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Author: intercst   😊 😞
Number: of 670 
Subject: Retirement investing fees and costs
Date: 05/27/2024 11:56 PM
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{{ In the never-ending search for the next Warren Buffett, most people are lost.

Hunting for a great stock picker is necessary, but not sufficient. You also need to find a great stock picker who isn’t a pickpocket.

To do that, you need to think less about investing and more about investment management. For Buffett, his business strategy bred a structure that set him apart from other money managers—and made shareholders a bundle.

To see why, let’s ask: How would Berkshire Hathaway BRK.B 0.07%increase; green up pointing triangle

have performed if Buffett had run it like a hedge fund?

Yes, I know you know the answer is “worse.” Do you realize how much worse?

If you’d invested $1,000 in the S&P 500 in early 1965 when Buffett took over at Berkshire, you’d have a bit over $300,000 today. If you’d bought Berkshire instead, you’d have more than $42.5 million—a big reason why tens of thousands of adoring shareholders will gather in Omaha this weekend to hear Buffett hold court.

If, on the other hand, Buffett had charged hedge-fund fees, you’d have under $5 million—still far more than the market, but about 90% less than Berkshire’s actual results. }}

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There is no greater macroeconomic force at work in America than the amount of skim, scam and fraud the average middle-class family loses to the bipartisan culture of political corruption in the country.

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Author: BRKNut   😊 😞
Number: of 670 
Subject: Re: Retirement investing fees and costs
Date: 05/28/2024 12:22 AM
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<<There is no greater macroeconomic force at work in America than the amount of skim, scam and fraud the average middle-class family loses to the bipartisan culture of political corruption in the country.>>>>

very well put! Couldn't agree more. It is so large and so mundane in plain sight and thus never seen for what it is. I started a thread on 401K contribution limits - a "captured" arrangement versus the IRA, which is largely under the discretion of the consumer. There is something similar in education funding - 529 Plans (captured) versus Educational Savings Account - The contribution limits are ridiculously lopsided towards the fee-rich 529. Large scale stealing.
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Author: intercst   😊 😞
Number: of 670 
Subject: Re: Retirement investing fees and costs
Date: 05/28/2024 1:26 AM
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<<I started a thread on 401K contribution limits - a "captured" arrangement versus the IRA, which is largely under the discretion of the consumer. >>

When I was living in Texas about 20 years ago, the Teacher's 403[b} plan was managed by an outfit called VALIC at about a 3% annual fee. That meant they were losing more than half the value of the account over a 50 year Retirement Investing lifetime (i.e., 25 years saving for retirement and God-willing, 25 years spending money in retirement.)

Always wondered why one of the math teachers couldn't have explained to them how much they were getting screwed.

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Author: BRKNut   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Retirement investing fees and costs
Date: 05/28/2024 7:51 PM
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<<<<Always wondered why one of the math teachers couldn't have explained to them how much they were getting screwed.>>>

Terrible. I'm pretty sure that wasn't the only thievery there. Surely the fund line up was also fee-laden and folks were goaded into choosing those by the advisor/managers.

I get the stinking feeling that the financial industry/media is running the clock on the few remaining credible voices of reason - Bogle and Munger have departed. Buffett stands alone. The media will drown it out with silence and more confusion.
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