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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Trump in Full Desperation Mode
Date: 08/14/2023 11:03 AM
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This morning, Trump is openly witness tampering on Truth Social, attacking former Georgia Lt. Governor Jeff Duncan, saying he shouldn't be testifying against him.

Isn't witness tampering a crime? Isn't his bail contingent on him not committing a crime? Or does he have to be charged with a crime for it to be a crime?

Trump is also openly taunting Judge Chutkan (after reTruthing an attack on her over the weekend that included her photograph) this morning, claiming she 'admitted' to trying to interfere in the 2024 election to hurt him. Where should the line be drawn between free speech and making defamatory public statements?

So what's his end game here? These are purposeful public statements. Sam Bankman-Fried just had his bail revoked for witness intimidation.

Is Trump simply seeing what he can get away with -- looking for that red line -- before he triggers a call-back before judge Chutkan?

Is he hoping to be admonished against making further attacks (because he's certainly trying to make his Jan 6 case a First Amendment case even though it has nothing to do with the First Amendment), stirring the base?

Does he simply want more fodder to milk the rubes of their last nickels in another round of "defense" fundraising?

Is he intentionally tainting the jury pool?

Is he planting the initial seeds for open rebellion?

Is he seeking martyrdom?

Thoughts?

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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump in Full Desperation Mode
Date: 08/14/2023 2:29 PM
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Where should the line be drawn between free speech and making defamatory public statements? - CO

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When it us OK to call some a Nazi, pretty much anything goes. Pot,..... meet Kettle
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump in Full Desperation Mode
Date: 08/14/2023 2:40 PM
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When it us OK to call some a Nazi, pretty much anything goes. Pot,..... meet Kettle

No kidding. You get a lot of benefits from having a [d] behind your name. Accuses Presidential candidates of cheating on their taxes, of murdering people, call Republicans fascist Nazi deplorables (then have your pink haired shock troops bear spray them), name it.
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Author: lizgdal   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump in Full Desperation Mode
Date: 08/14/2023 4:03 PM
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Trump's only hope is to get elected to save himself. Unfortunately, that seems a possibility. The campaign strategy is create enemies to rally against and create fear to motivate voters. Trump getting reelected would lead to disaster, maybe worse than the COVID pandemic. He can't pardon himself from the state crimes, but SCOTUS would probably rescue him. Chaos every day with an inept President. (Trump is rated Last or Next to Last among 46 US Presidents in: Background, Integrity, Intelligence, Executive Appointments, Foreign Policy accomplishments, Ability to compromise, Executive ability, and Present overall view.)

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In Georgia, Trump abandons subtlety, urges witness not to testify, Aug. 14, 2023
Trump's fear of charges in Georgia has led to a new step: The former president is now explicitly urging a relevant Republican witness not to testify...

As New York magazine's Jon Chait summarized this morning, 'What can certainly be ascertained, without any legal training, is that this is not the behavior of an innocent man.'

After Trump's indictment in Georgia, state law will require a judge to agree that the criminal defendant 'poses no significant risk of intimidating witnesses.' Watch this space.
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblo...

"I am reading reports that failed former Lt. Governor of Georgia, Jeff Duncan, will be testifying before the Fulton County Grand Jury. He shouldn't. I barely know him but he was, right from the beginning of this Witch Hunt, a nasty disaster for those looking into the Election Fraud that took place in Georgia. He refused having a Special Session to find out what went on, became very unpopular with Republicans (I refused to endorse him!), and fought the TRUTH all the way. A loser, he went to FNCNN!"
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/110...

Siena's 7th Presidential Expert Poll 1982 ' 2022
Top Five, Rushmore Plus 1 Remain Unchanged; FDR, Lincoln, Washington, Teddy Roosevelt & Jefferson
Worst Five Again ' Andrew Johnson, Buchanan, Trump, Harding & Pierce
Biden Enters Ranking 19th, LBJ Moves into Top Ten, Obama 11th, Ike firmly 6th, Ronald Reagan rated 18th Best President
https://scri.siena.edu/2022/06/22/american-preside...
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump in Full Desperation Mode
Date: 08/15/2023 12:24 AM
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Yep, that's it. We may get debacles of "hold the trial while I run for office" (don't think that flies), and the big one - will a conviction get a stay so he can run, or will section 3, or another law, take him out of play until the Supremes decide. Hope it takes him out of play.

I'm interested to see how his polls go after conviction. Will we start seeing a decline? In the meantime I'll offer Republicans my thoughts and prayers as I know they have no effect.
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump in Full Desperation Mode
Date: 08/15/2023 9:50 AM
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we know we'll see his favorite tactic: delay, delay, delay.

It may work.
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