bighairymike: I think the chances of achieving meaningful border security are far better under Trump than it would be under Biden. If Biden wins, it is back to lip service and insincere concern for four more years. His first three years showed us what is really in his heart despite what his lips say.

And that's delusional.

In another thread, albaby1 explained in detail that border encounters skyrocketed in Trump's second year yet he had zero interest in addressing immigration or border security. And that it was only the pandemic that drove down the numbers of border encounters. I mean, c'mon, who wanted to cross into a country that so drastically botched the pandemic response that thousands of Americans were dying daily, where there were no hospital beds available anywhere, and where the dead bodies were being stored in freezer trucks because hospital morgues were overrun by the Covid-19 dead?

And what, you're going to fault Biden because during his first year in office he was trying to get a deadly pandemic under control after TFG failed to do so? And then he had to get the economy back on track -- get people working again, get manufacturing back from overseas -- after Dementia Don killed jobs and small businesses nationwide. Oh, and then there was the invasion of Ukraine.

So what if it's year three? But actually, the bipartisan effort actually began in year two of the Biden presidency.

The team negotiated for four months to produce the bill. And it took less than four days for its support among Republicans to collapse at the direction of Dementia Don and Moses Johnson, both of whom prefer immigration to be their main attack on Biden during the presidential campaign.

As far as the chances of achieving meaningful border security being far better under Trump, umm, sure: he'll have that worked out in two weeks just like he did a new plan to replace Obamacare and a new Infrastructure deal.

Two weeks, honest.

Pinkie swear.