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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Bill Maher on the far left,
Date: 06/27/2024 6:04 PM
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" Bill Maher Calls Left ‘Aggressively Anti-Common Sense’ at Aspen Ideas Festival, Predicts Trump ‘Very Likely Will Win’


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/bill-maher...
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Bill Maher on the far left,
Date: 06/27/2024 6:30 PM
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the video,

https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo...
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Bill Maher on the far left,
Date: 06/27/2024 7:16 PM
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Normal Americans want

*Low crime
*A good economy
*A chance to raise their families as they see fit
*A border that means something
*A strong US that is respected around the world
*A chance to make their kids' lives easier than theirs was

Normal Americans don't want
*Criminals with more rights than they have
*Less and less purchasing power
*The government calling them terrorists for merely having an opinion
*Men in women's locker rooms
*People flooding across the border in waves

Which is why Trump, for all his faults, has a chance this election. Look at what the democrats do when you give them power.
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Author: ptheland   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Bill Maher on the far left,
Date: 06/27/2024 8:47 PM
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Normal Americans want
...
Normal Americans don't want


I'm not sure you really want to open up policy discussions here.

First off, you need to define "Normal Americans." I suspect we have very different interpretations of what that is.

Look at what the democrats do when you give them power.

Let's see.

Improve the economy:
-Get unemployment down to the lowest levels in a generation.
-Get the stock market to all time highs.

Improved the US Government finances:
-Slowed the growth in the US debt. (Trump added twice as much debt as Biden)
-Both cut the deficit, but Biden cut it by 5 times as much ($450 billion for Trump vs. $1.9 trillion for Biden.)

Foreign relations:
-Repaired relationships that were strained under Trump, such as with the EU, NATO, and WHO.
-Supported Ukraine after it was invaded by Russia
-Supported Israel after it was attacked by Hamas


It's also important to look at what Trump did when we gave him power.

-Cut taxes on the wealthy, resulting in larger budget deficits
-Denigrated scientists and experts, culminating in a poor response to a global pandemic
-Spread lies and misinformation in furtherance of his personal financial gain and accumulation of power
-Broke with over 230 years of tradition and refused to recognize his loss in the 2020 election
-Attempted to remain in power after losing an election by filing baseless court cases and spreading fabricated stories of voting irregularities
-Fomented a riot on the US Capitol, then took more than 3 hours to do even the slightest thing to stop it.
-Was impeached twice for his irresponsible use of the powers of the office of the President
-Took actions that have resulted in over 90 criminal charges against him in 4 different courts, with one (so far) resulting in felony convictions on all 34 counts in that case.

So yeah, let's compare Biden and Trump, shall we?

--Peter
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Bill Maher on the far left,
Date: 06/27/2024 9:06 PM
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I'm not sure you really want to open up policy discussions here.
Lulz. Bring it on.

First off, you need to define "Normal Americans."
People who aren't insane leftists.

-Get unemployment down to the lowest levels in a generation.
-Get the stock market to all time highs.


By doing...what, exactly?

And how's inflation doing? Good luck yelling BUT THE DOW out the window at working people who are paying way more for rent, groceries and gas under Biden.

Next!

-Slowed the growth in the US debt. (Trump added twice as much debt as Biden)
-Both cut the deficit, but Biden cut it by 5 times as much ($450 billion for Trump vs. $1.9 trillion for Biden.)


*Throws dishonesty flag*
Nice try. Trump had COVID spending there, and neither guy wins a prize. But Biden gets a Special Booby Prize for continuing to pump dollars into an inflationary environment.

Deficits:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=1pC1g

Debt:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=1pC1o

Given that Trump had to spend for COVID, Biden is worse.

Next!

Foreign relations:
-Repaired relationships that were strained under Trump, such as with the EU, NATO, and WHO.
-Supported Ukraine after it was invaded by Russia
-Supported Israel after it was attacked by Hamas


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Trump gave the Ukraine lethal weapons when Obama/Biden wouldn't.
Under Trump, the world wasn't on fire. Now it is.
And BTW now you people are crowing about NATO countries finally contributing something...who was it that pushed that issue?

How many Americans did Biden leave behind in Afghanistan?

Next!

-Cut taxes on the wealthy, resulting in larger budget deficits And grew the economy
-Denigrated scientists and experts, culminating in a poor response to a global pandemic You mean people like Fauci and Birx who said they made a lot of things up as they went along? And who admitted later that closing schools down was wrong?
-Broke with over 230 years of tradition and refused to recognize his loss in the 2020 election
-Attempted to remain in power after losing an election by filing baseless court cases and spreading fabricated stories of voting irregularities


algore, Hillary! and the democrats say "hi". I'm amazed at how little you people know about your own party.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-democrats-ho...
https://www.dailysignal.com/2021/01/04/in-past-20-...

-Fomented a riot on the US Capitol, then took more than 3 hours to do even the slightest thing to stop it.
Pelosi admitted it was her responsibility...and it was, given Trump offered her National Guard and she turned it down.

-Was impeached twice for his irresponsible use of the powers of the office of the President

Two Star Chamber impeachments over hidden evidence and innuendo.

You are really, really, bad at this. Seriously.





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Author: ptheland   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Bill Maher on the far left,
Date: 06/27/2024 9:22 PM
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First off, you need to define "Normal Americans."
People who aren't insane leftists.


Right there you shut down any possibility of a rational conversation. If you really think that leftists are insane, it will be impossible to have any kind of conversation at all about any even slightly political topic. If you have no respect for the opposition, productive conversation is impossible.

I've tried to treat you with some modicum of respect for your position. But your statement here immediately dismisses anything I have to say as long as you deem it to be coming from an "insane leftist."

So how 'bout them Dodgers?

--Peter
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