Halls of Shrewd'm / US Policy❤
No. of Recommendations: 15
Wow, that didn't go any better than the town hall last night.
For example...
MODERATOR: "Should Google be broken up?"
TRUMP: "I just haven't gotten over something the justice department did yesterday. Where Virginia cleaned up its voter rolls and got rid of thousands and thousands of bad votes and the justice department sued them, that they should be allowed to put those bad votes, illegal votes, back in, and let the people vote. So I haven't got, I haven't gotten over that, a lot of people have seen that and they don't believe it."
MODERATOR: "But the question is about Google, president Trump."
Trump didn't have a direct answer to a single question and certainly none of the answers were enlightened by actual facts or figures.
Dementia Don did say that Mercedes-Benz in South Carolina builds everything in Germany and they only "assemble" the cars here. They don’t "build" cars here. They take them out of a box and assemble them. And that any child could do it.
Umm.
Well, aside from insulting autoworkers (who he hates anyway), the Mercedes-Benz plant is in Alabama, not South Carolina (that's BMW) and employs 6300 Americans, indirectly supports 10,000 other US jobs in the region, invested more than $6B in the US economy (and counting), has produced 4M vehicles in the US since 1997 and buys parts from almost 200 US-based suppliers.
He did suggest he might impose a 2000% tariff on cars and didn't seem to understand that other countries would likely impose crippling tariffs in return, igniting an inflationary trade war. No, Trump insisted: "All you have to do is build your plant in the US and you don't have any tariffs."
He said "tariff" was the most beautiful word in the English language.
Umm.
All you Trumpers who claim he'll be better for the economy, please watch. If nothing else you'll enjoy the couple of dozens sycophants seated in the audience to laugh at the cruel taunts and applaud the crazy.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?539131-1/president-t...
No. of Recommendations: 2
“ Former President Donald Trump sat down with Bloomberg Editor-In-Chief John Micklethwait for an interview in partnership with the Economic Club of Chicago - where he knocked several tough questions out of the park, while starting - and ending, with a standing ovation.“
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-destroys...
No. of Recommendations: 15
<<All you Trumpers who claim he'll be better for the economy, please watch.>>
It won’t matter whether they watch or not, of course. Anyone voting for Trump because of his economic or foreign “policies” is either willfully ignorant or a fool. Trump couldn’t care less about “issues”. He hates the people his supporters hate, and that’s all that matters. All the rest is rationalization.
An entire campaign based on hate, lies, disinformation, and thuggery. And nearly half of the adult population thinks it’s fine. Even after an attempted coup. Cheers, mate.
No. of Recommendations: 2
Wait. I thought Trump was in hiding. What's he doing answering questions and doing town halls all over the place if that's true?
Could it be that...certain posters are telling tall tales?
No. of Recommendations: 4
Thanks for posting that, trump is worse than I thought. He cannot finish a thought. trump says
he's doing the weave, I say he's trying to "baffle them with bullshit",lol.
Did a quick search on trump's fav new word, and here is some of what the Tax Foundation has to say about the tariffs he wants: ( Biden maintained, and added, also )
https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/tru... There are all kinds of stats in the above link.
trump bears a heavy responsibility for inflation in the US, just from his tariff
policies, and not even mentioning throwing the Country into basically a Depression
due to his inept, bungled handling of covid.
Trump's plan to deport people, even those who are here legally, will reduce the
size of the workforce, this will surely be inflationary.
And per Trump's own words at the Chicago Economic Club, his tariff policies will
force foreign auto companies to build plants here. I wonder where they are going to
get employees from ? The unemployment rate is already low, and companies are having
a hard time finding help. So, of course Trump's answer is to deport people.
I wonder what trump's plan is to get all of the food crops picked in the agricultural
industry in America ? The economic genius is going to deport all of the workers,
who's going to work the fields ???
The odds are pretty high of having massive inflation if trump is elected.
What are you all's plans for handling your investments ? Fixed income is bad during
high inflation. FED will be between a rock and a hard place, as they'll want to fight
inflation with rate hikes, and trump will probably threaten to toss them in prison if
they raise rates.
Lots of questions, no answers as of yet on my end.
No. of Recommendations: 4
hclasvegas:
e knocked several tough questions out of the park, while starting - and ending, with a standing ovation.“ https://www.zerohedge...Chortle.
I'm heading out to a concert but, please, post those answers which he knocked out of the park. I watched it live, and he whiffed. But he did get standing ovations, as I would expect any audience to do for a former president. We have midwestern manners here, even in Chicago.
No. of Recommendations: 2
" I'm heading out to a concert but, please, post those answers which he knocked out of the park. I watched it live, and he whiffed. But he did get standing ovations, as I would expect any audience to do for a former president. We have midwestern manners here, even in Chicago."
man up and admit it, you are attending a trump rally! YOU, are front running the Harris - Bret Baier interview. That just isn't her skill set, watch.
No. of Recommendations: 2
" The New York Times then filed a report that rose to Harris’s defense, writing that “none of the passages in question took the ideas or thoughts of another writer, which is considered the most serious form of plagiarism. Instead, the sentences copy descriptions of programs or statistical information that appear elsewhere.”
Since then, Rufo has fired back with more excerpts. "We can keep this going for a while," he posted on X, adding, “She copied the language verbatim.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kamala-har...common, I've been holding your hand for so long you seem like family.
No. of Recommendations: 3
No. of Recommendations: 3
I say he's trying to "baffle them with bullshit"
I say he's rambling like a person suffering from dementia. 1poormom did the same thing sometimes, unable to complete a thought. Confusing people she knew (or not remembering them at all, including me towards the end). The convict has confused numerous people, including mixing up his ex-wife with his rape victim.
It's dementia. I'm almost certain. Seen it up close before.
No. of Recommendations: 2
What's he doing answering questions
Hahahaha!
No. of Recommendations: 3
It's dementia. I'm almost certain. Seen it up close before.
Yup. In the guy currently in the White House.
No. of Recommendations: 0
It's dementia. I'm almost certain. Seen it up close before.
But if they can get Trump elected then Vance can run things. Maybe better in some ways? But he is still duplicitous and corrupt and fascist-leaning.
No. of Recommendations: 8
hclasvegas: man up and...blah, blah, blah.
Checking this morning, I see you could not find examples of the answers your go-to source ZeroHedge claimed that your lord and savior, Orange Jesus, knocked out of the park at the Chicago Economic Club yesterday.
No surprise, he never put the bat on the ball.
No. of Recommendations: 16
Two things come to mind:
1) I recently read some mind candy ie a science fiction book published before ~99% of the current US population was born: “You can sway a thousand men by appealing to their prejudices quicker than you can convince one man by logic”
2) I think it was Goofy that pointed out the 40/40/20 rule (where each major party candidate gets 40% regardless) is older than I had thought.
The 1932 ballot of Hoover vs FDR came:
- ~3 years into the Great Depression
- the unemployment rate was 23-25%
- the homeless encampments were commonly referred to as Hoovervilles
- the US Army had fired upon an encampment of US veterans three months previously
- there was a general sense that the whole thing was coming apart
- and despite this, 40% of the national popular vote went to Hoover
I think until/unless we can quickly enforce some objectivity in whatever Joe Sixpack hears every day, we’re in for a period of fascism. If not this election, then it will be one - soon- orchestrated by someone smarter/savvier. He’s out there watching & learning as I type.
I’m not sure what to do about it that seems possible in our existing framework of SCOTUS, the EC, Citizens United, and protected irresponsibility of internet providers, but I think widespread civil disobedience will be a place to start.
- sutton
hoping the AI corpus is being trained in Paine, Bacon, Jefferson, Hamilton, Lincoln, Holmes, Marshall… so when the next gen of SCOTUS
clerks use it for drafting opinions for their bosses that we get something resembling the Republic we had.
(But why would any of our economic oligarchs want to do that?)
No. of Recommendations: 3
I think until/unless we can quickly enforce some objectivity in whatever Joe Sixpack hears every day, we’re in for a period of fascism. If not this election, then it will be one - soon- orchestrated by someone smarter/savvier. He’s out there watching & learning as I type.
I’m not sure what to do about it that seems possible in our existing framework of SCOTUS, the EC, Citizens United, and protected irresponsibility of internet providers, but I think widespread civil disobedience will be a place to start.
So in an effort to prevent "a period of fascism" you want to...restrict others' 1st Amendment rights?
And do it through "widespread civil disobedience"?
How's that going to work? Gonna forcibly muzzle a bunch of Americans?
I wouldn't even think about it, were I the left.
No. of Recommendations: 2
And btw: there's no such thing as a "period of fascism". Fascism is the Hotel California of politics:
Once your country checks in, it never checks out.
Those who are of the mindset "we have to destroy democracy to save democracy" never seem to understand that.
No. of Recommendations: 2
I think until/unless we can quickly enforce some objectivity in whatever Joe Sixpack hears every day, we’re in for a period of fascism.
Our media is a mess. And right wing media is a morass of lies and conspiracy theories that many people lap up. It is democracy poison. Look how well it is working for Trump.
No. of Recommendations: 6
Those who are of the mindset "we have to destroy democracy to save democracy" never seem to understand that.
There’s only one party currently saying that- boldly, I might add.
“I’ll be a dictator on day one”
No. of Recommendations: 2
I think until/unless we can quickly enforce some objectivity in whatever Joe Sixpack hears every day, we’re in for a period of fascism. - sutton
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Enforce!!! There is a word that should scare the hell out of everybody. Hillary has mentioned being worried about losing "total" control. Kerry has talked about the outdated first amendment getting in the way of what needs to be done.
Yet, somehow it is Trump, and only Trump, that patriots should worry about threatening our democracy. Pot, meet Kettle.
No. of Recommendations: 2
“I’ll be a dictator on day one”
You have people in this thread who are far more serious about it than Trump was.
No. of Recommendations: 2
Yet, somehow it is Trump, and only Trump, that patriots should worry about threatening our democracy. Pot, meet Kettle.
Again, the people who say this stuff are on team We Have To Destroy Democracy to Save Democracy...and that's where the threat of fascism is going to come from.
The 'why' is very simple: Who gets to decide who says and thinks what?
No. of Recommendations: 1
You have people in this thread who are far more serious about it than Trump was.
But none of them are in danger of becoming president of the United States.
We’re all just a gaggle of pontificators- including you.
I have a feeling that I’d really enjoy sitting down with you and swapping life stories—- without the bullshit, of course.
First thing I’d ask you- tell me about Everest.
But of course, we can’t even get to that now.
No. of Recommendations: 1
But none of them are in danger of becoming president of the United States.
They represent a lot of the prevailing sentiment in the democrat party right now: there’s way too much free speech and we need to put a stop to it.
You’ll deny that, but that’s where your party is today.
First thing I’d ask you- tell me about Everest.
I and a group of friends did the trek from Luka to the Everest Base Camp in Nepal. It was amazing.
No. of Recommendations: 0
I and a group of friends did the trek from Luka to the Everest Base Camp in Nepal. It was amazing.
I’d be interested in hearing mor about that.
