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Author: in4ever   😊 😞
Number: of 3959 
Subject: Concerns with ROE
Date: 01/06/2024 4:22 PM
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I realize all valuation ratios have their drawbacks. I stumbled upon this article recently and thought of the ROE screens.

https://www.sfmagazine.com/articles/2022/september...

I noted Shareholder Equity is no longer a meaning metric for HD.

Is the Equity value found is many of the ROE screens ("pref(equityq1.s,ceqq1.c)") Shareholder Equity?

Where can I find the 'GTR1 For dummy's' guide? All the links i've found are on decommissioned Fool pages.

Thanks,
Pete
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Author: FlyingCircus   😊 😞
Number: of 3959 
Subject: Re: Concerns with ROE
Date: 01/06/2024 10:38 PM
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@Wavedoc @lohill the Dropbox links are broken to the GTR1 for Dummies -
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/e4a7bhapdd5bgcrodrl...

Can you restore / re-upload, please?

FC
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Author: lizgdal   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Concerns with ROE
Date: 01/06/2024 11:16 PM
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One solution is to avoid screening for extremely high ROE. Instead look for above average ROE, and include a check on debt levels (increased debt will decrease equity).

After running a screen in gtr1, the field descriptions can be seen in the Command Translation.
equityq1.s is [SI Equity (Common) Q1]
ceqq1.c is [CPiT Com/Ord Equity - Total Q1]

ROA or ROIC could be used in place of ROE, but ROE backtests better in many screens. Possible measures for marginal expansion costs:

Equity = Assets - Liabilities
Assets
Invested Capital = Equity + Debt - Cash

ROA: pref(ratio(netinc12mq1d.s,assetsq1.s),ratio(ni12mq1d.c,atq1.c))

Cash: pref(plus(max(0,cashq1.s),max(0,stinvq1.s)),max(0,cheq1.c))
Debt: pref(plus(max(0,ltdebtq1.s),max(0,stdebtq1.s)),plus(max(0,dlttq1.c),max(0,dlcq1.c)))
Equity: pref(equityq1.s,ceqq1.c)
IC: linear(1,Equity,1,Debt,-1,Cash)
R: pref(gopinc12m.s,oeps12q1.c)
ROIC: if(IC>0,ratio(R,IC),R)
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Author: lohill 🐝 BRONZE
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Subject: Re: Concerns with ROE
Date: 01/07/2024 8:49 AM
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I can't help you with GTR1 for Dummies bur you mentioned my name so here is a link to GTR1 Helper in case anyone wants it,

PC Version: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0od442tu8lmwoy5/GTR1%20H...
Mac Version: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wd55uj0k429vfhy/GTR1%20H...

Larry
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Author: mapg   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Concerns with ROE
Date: 01/07/2024 10:41 AM
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One solution is to avoid screening for extremely high ROE. Instead look for above average ROE, and include a check on debt levels (increased debt will decrease equity).

Thanks for that info.
Not backtested but looking at Fidelity Screener the change has some significance.
The obvious is sectors are more distributed with less IT.

        ROE_GMI (FH,Q)         AS OF 09:13 AM ET 12/07/2023 
Criteria: (Name) Criteria: (range) Count (%)
Security Type Common Stock 7992
Security Price No Filter
Company Headquarters Location United States of America 5802
Market Capitalization Mega, Large, Medium & Small 1365 100%
Current Ratio (MRQ) Very high, high & Medium 643 47%
Quick Ratio (MRQ) Very high, high & Medium 548 40%
S&P GMI Financial Health Very high, high 159 12%
S&P GMI Quality Very high, high 125 9%
Return on Equity (TTM) Very high, high & Medium 80 6%
Sector Exc. Financial & REIT 72 5%
Industry Industry 72 5%
Sub-Industry Sub-Industry 72 5%


  Current SoR Profile   CountIF()    %
Sector -- --
Industrials 17 24%
Health Care 17 24%
Materials 12 17%
Information Technology 11 15%
Consumer Discretionary 4 6%
Energy 4 6%
Communication Services 3 4%
Consumer Staples 3 4%
Utilities 1 1%
Financials 0 0%
REIT 0 0%
Market Capitalization -- --
Mega 4 6%
Large 11 15%
Medium 24 33%
Small 33 46%
-- --
Total Count
72 100%

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