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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Jail for Trump
Date: 04/30/2024 2:22 PM
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Apparently the judge has found Trump in contempt of the gag order. He is threatening jail. I would be surprised if it actually happened, but I think it would be appropriate. Trump thinks he's above the law, exempt from the law, and had no respect for the judge's orders or the position of the judge. He should be taught that he can be perp-walked just like anyone else.
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Jail for Trump
Date: 04/30/2024 2:35 PM
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He is threatening jail.

I hope not. The martyr effect may be something Trump would like. His cult will see it as proof of his persecution.
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Author: EchotaSheeple   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Jail for Trump
Date: 04/30/2024 2:49 PM
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As long as Progressives continue to be Progressive on campus and beyond: Nothing else matters.

All the fun stuff is here, and going to increase....Trump or no Trump.
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Author: albaby1 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Jail for Trump
Date: 04/30/2024 2:51 PM
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I would be surprised if it actually happened....

There's always the possibility that Trump can't help himself. But absent that, he's in control of whether that happens or not. Does he choose to provoke the judge into sending him to jail for a short time?

On the one hand, it would be a momentous and absolute CIRCUS of a thing - a media event beyond compare. Which he would probably LOVE. Everyone in the world talking about this historic Trump event? He'd eat that up. And it would be a fundraising bonanza, the ultimate moneybomb.

On the other hand....jail? Jail is terrible. He's reported to be very afraid of jail. And images of him in an orange jumpsuit with unkempt hair will offset some of the political benefit.

My money's on him staying out, but I think it's 50/50.
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Author: g0177325   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Jail for Trump
Date: 04/30/2024 3:20 PM
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On the other hand....jail? Jail is terrible. He's reported to be very afraid of jail. And images of him in an orange jumpsuit with unkempt hair will offset some of the political benefit.

Would they really make him wear an orange suite and slip-on shoes? And how the hell would his secret service protection be involved? Posted just outside his cell at all times? Testing all his food? The mind boggles at the possibilities!
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Author: WatchingTheHerd HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Jail for Trump
Date: 04/30/2024 3:42 PM
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Nothing about this situation is clear but consider these additional richochets.

In each of Trump's OTHER arraignment appearances for his OTHER criminal charges, one of the conditions he had to agree to involved avoiding further legal trouble. Could a charge of contempt of court trigger changes in those other jurisdictions that might rule him to be in violation of his probation in those cases?

The conditions in Georgia for example state:

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23921620/23...

(2) The Defendant shall not violate the laws of this State, the laws of any other state, the laws
of the United States of America, or any other local laws. Ayala v. State, 262 Ga. 704, 705
(1993).


Today's ruling by Judge Merchan was a criminal contempt finding, not merely civil. We'll probably need another appeal to the Supreme Court and another 8 month delay to determine if a criminal contempt citation counts as a criminal act or charge for the purposes of other bail agreements. From what I can find on the internets, criminal contempt is a criminal charge and remains on your record for Everyman or Everywoman. We'll have to see if it applies to Everytrump.


WTH
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Author: albaby1 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Jail for Trump
Date: 04/30/2024 3:58 PM
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Would they really make him wear an orange suite and slip-on shoes? And how the hell would his secret service protection be involved? Posted just outside his cell at all times? Testing all his food? The mind boggles at the possibilities!

Don't know! I'm sure that the prosecution would want to make it as unpleasant an experience as the rules permit - after all, the point is to get him to stop engaging in prohibited conduct, so you need a big deterrent. Lord knows how they would implement it, though.

I'm not sure criminal contempt involves breaking a "law," exactly. It's a judicial power, not a legislative one. But maybe in New York they've codified it?
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Jail for Trump
Date: 04/30/2024 4:31 PM
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Wow, you guys really want to hand him the election, don't you?

At some point you'll have to set aside your personal vendettas and get real.
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Subject: Re: Jail for Trump
Date: 04/30/2024 5:03 PM
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Wow, you guys really want to hand him the election, don't you?

Not at all. I don't want him to commit contempt and be jailed for it. I want him to follow the judge's orders. There is no way that Trump refusing to comply with the court's order, and subsequently being jailed for it, is good for anyone involved. I hope he manages to control himself.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Jail for Trump
Date: 04/30/2024 5:50 PM
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Not at all. I don't want him to commit contempt and be jailed for it. I want him to follow the judge's orders. There is no way that Trump refusing to comply with the court's order, and subsequently being jailed for it, is good for anyone involved. I hope he manages to control himself.

He doesn't have that definition of "control". What the democrats fail to realize is that Trump is actually a very good tactician in a number of areas. He KNOWS he might go to jail, and while that might be personally horrifying to him, he also knows that if he lands there he will immediately get another 5 points in the polls.

The judge knows that, too.
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Jail for Trump
Date: 04/30/2024 6:03 PM
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I hope not. The martyr effect may be something Trump would like. His cult will see it as proof of his persecution.

Yep, The more Biden and the liberals hate and persecute President Trump the stronger President Trump becomes, more money raised for Trump’s campaign coffer, more Americans are
joining the MEGA Cult.

Normal Americans hate what Biden and his liberal enclave is doing to President Trump.
Biden’s desperation and falling poll numbers has reached the fringes of insanity.
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Jail for Trump
Date: 04/30/2024 8:05 PM
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Violating a judge's orders is about as real as it gets.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Jail for Trump
Date: 04/30/2024 8:15 PM
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Violating a judge's orders is about as real as it gets.

In a politically motivated trial. Come on, you know that it is.
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Jail for Trump
Date: 05/01/2024 9:50 AM
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No, it most certainly isn't. He committed the acts he's accused of. There is really no doubt at this point. The only questions are procedural. Trump is likely to spend some real time in jail if he doesn't expire first.

The five(??) Benghazi hearings were politically motivated. And resulted in bubkis.
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Jail for Trump
Date: 05/01/2024 9:56 AM
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Yes, it will be a circus. I didn't know that it will be a fundraising bonanza. The suckers are already shoveling money into his campaign. I don't he'd get many new donors. And, as you say, his mugshot splashed all over the news would be a negative.

I don't it will happen, however much it is deserved.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Jail for Trump
Date: 05/01/2024 9:56 AM
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If you think Obama’s handling of Benghazi was good governance, I don’t know what to tell you.
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Author: sano 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Jail for Trump
Date: 05/01/2024 10:34 AM
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Dope: If you think Obama’s handling of Benghazi was good governance, I don’t know what to tell you.

Oh, he'll think of something to tell you.

He just needs a few minutes to do his research on Hot Air. The sources the gentlemen from MAGA cite are all conveniently located on the Hot Air home page; red state, zero hedge, pj.. all the MAGA chow one can swallow.

Here's all their Obama Benghazi talking points:
https://hotair.com/search/q?q=obama+benghazi

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