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Author: intercst   😊 😞
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Subject: Let's form a posse and 'round-em up&apos
Date: 02/25/2025 6:31 AM
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{{ A $25 billion plan to use private military contractors for the mass deportation of undocumented migrants was pitched to Donald Trump’s team shortly before his inauguration, POLITICO’s Dasha Burns and Myah Ward reveal this morning. The proposal is laid bare in a leaked 26-page document setting out how mass deportations could potentially be delivered through a network of “processing camps” on military bases, a private fleet of 100 planes and a “small army” of private citizens empowered to make arrests. ]]

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/25/documents...

This could be like a MAGA Fantasy Camp weekend.

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Author: albaby1 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Let's form a posse and 'round-em up&apos
Date: 02/25/2025 9:45 AM
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A $25 billion plan to use private military contractors for the mass deportation of undocumented migrants was pitched to Donald Trump’s team shortly before his inauguration, POLITICO’s Dasha Burns and Myah Ward reveal this morning. The proposal is laid bare in a leaked 26-page document setting out how mass deportations could potentially be delivered through a network of “processing camps” on military bases, a private fleet of 100 planes and a “small army” of private citizens empowered to make arrests.

Again, because the federal government doesn't currently have the resources appropriated to arrest and deport the number of folks that the Administration would like to deport. The "pipeline" doesn't have enough capacity to move many more people through. To increase the number of deportations from internal enforcement, you need vastly more folks to make arrests, vastly more facilities to detain folks while they await hearings, and vastly more immigration judicial resources to process them all. Existing appropriations just aren't sufficient to do that, which is why the Administration has been unable to get to the numbers they want - and why they're trying to draw on military resources and other law enforcement assets to supplement it.

That's why the Senate GOP is pursuing a two-bill reconciliation strategy, rather than the "One Big Beautiful Bill" approach. They're trying to get more money for internal immigration enforcement to the Administration quickly, so that they can get started spinning up the deportation effort. There's going to be a non-trivial lead time before the appropriations lead to more actual deportations, because the bottleneck appears to be the detention/judicial limit. Despite suggestions that there were oodles of easily deportable aliens ready to be shipped out (because they already had removal orders), ICE's detention capabilities were very quickly filled to capacity in the first two weeks of the Administration. Until they can move people out of the end of the process more quickly (the judicial hearings), they don't have the space to put more people into the beginning of the process (arrests) because they don't have any place to hold them. They need beds and judges and lawyers before they can get a faster rate of people through the system.
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Subject: Re: Let's form a posse and 'round-em up&apos
Date: 02/25/2025 10:35 AM
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Until they can move people out of the end of the process more quickly (the judicial hearings), they don't have the space to put more people into the beginning of the process (arrests) because they don't have any place to hold them. They need beds and judges and lawyers before they can get a faster rate of people through the system.

Getting undesirable people out of the country has always been a problem for some countries- especially when other countries don’t want to take them.

As you point out, the mechanisms are ponderous, the logistical obstacles are more immense than first estimated and the personnel demands are daunting.

Many countries have struggled with the issue, and some have even managed to develop an efficient and final solution.
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Subject: Re: Let's form a posse and 'round-em up&apos
Date: 02/25/2025 1:41 PM
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I suspect, but don't know for certain, that the Felon isn't interested in the "pipeline". Based on everything we know about him, and I think he wants to skip the hearings and go straight to loading them on C130s.
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Author: albaby1 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Let's form a posse and 'round-em up&apos
Date: 02/25/2025 2:12 PM
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I suspect, but don't know for certain, that the Felon isn't interested in the "pipeline". Based on everything we know about him, and I think he wants to skip the hearings and go straight to loading them on C130s.

I'm sure that's right - or rather, I doubt he's really aware of (or focused on) the fact that these folks are entitled to a hearing prior to deportation.

But they are, and the government wants an enforceable order of removal. So regardless of whether Trump is interested in the pipeline, they still have to go through it. Which makes means that if you go out an arrest these people, rather than just letting them live their lives and check in while their cases are pending, then you have to have someplace to put them. And if you don't massive expand the immigration courts, you'll need to keep them in that place for quite a long time, until their case can get heard.

All that costs money that the Administration doesn't have yet. If the Senate approach to reconciliation gets traction, they might have it soon - if not, then it could be well into the year before an appropriation gets to them. Which is why they're trying to kludge together an alternative to just expanding the system. But that's hard to do effectively.
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