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They want to hire 10,000 new ICE officers. They are offering a $50,000 signing bonus and student loan forgiveness to new recruits.

Their goal is to deport a million people a year.

The BBB includes $170 billion for immigration security and border enforcement. Lots of room for fraud, waste and abuse.

$45 billion for concentration camps (detention centers if you prefer).

ICE's detention network mainly consists of facilities operated by for-profit prison companies More great opportunities for fraud, waste and abuse.

And an army of goons at Trump and Stephen Miller's command.

The BBB includes $170 billion for immigration security and border enforcement. Lots of room for fraud, waste and abuse.

$45 billion for concentration camps (detention centers if you prefer). - CO

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These are processing facilities used to hold potential deportees while their due process is provided. The vast numbers remind us of that under Biden these illegals would be paroled into the country to roam free for years awaiting their due process.

Sure a lot are required. But look at it this way, the more facilities, the shorter the lines and the shorter the length of temporary confinement.

bighairymike: $45 billion for concentration camps (detention centers if you prefer). - CO

Umm, I didn't write that. But as Herr Trump said when touring Camp Everglades: “The only way out, really, is deportation.”

That doesn't sound especially due-processy to me but some Germans probably called Auschwitz and Buchenwald processing facilities back in the day. And yeah, yeah, I know: no one is being exterminated in these luxury Trump Camps, they're just being deported to vacation destinations they've never set foot in before where they're beaten constantly by the guards, kicked in the face, kicked in the chest, and wish they were dead.

But they had tattoos, so their bad.


https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/former-venezuela...

These are processing facilities

Euphemisms R-US.

Expect even more.

These are processing facilities used to hold potential deportees while their due process is provided.

You do realize that the bottleneck in the process of providing due process is with immigration judges, right? We don’t have enough judges to get through all the people wanting to enter the country.

The other interesting thing to know is that the vast majority of those being picked up are in the system, following the law and attempting to correct their errors in coming to the country. They are adding to the prosperity of the country, not taking away from it.

So by picking them up and putting them in detention facilities, it is costing the citizens of this country in two ways. We lose what they were adding to our economy plus we are paying for the cost of these additional facilities.

When these folks are on pre trial release, they are providing for themselves. When they’re in detention, you and I and everyone else are paying for their food and housing and for their jailers.

That’s your tax money going to support illegal aliens.

—Peter

These are processing facilities.

Isn't that the euphemism for slaughter houses.

Isn't that the euphemism for slaughter houses.

Exactly.

Here are some examples of Nazi euphemisms related to the death camps and the extermination process:
Final Solution (Endlösung der Judenfrage): This chilling term referred to the Nazis' plan for the systematic annihilation of Europe's Jews.
Resettlement in the East (Umsiedlung nach (dem) Osten): This deceptive phrase suggested that Jews were being relocated to new territories for labor or other purposes, when in reality, it meant deportation to extermination camps and other sites of murder.
Special Treatment (Sonderbehandlung): This euphemism was used to refer to killings and other forms of persecution.
Processing (Verarbeitung): This term was used to describe the selection, gassing, burning, and disposal of people in the camps.
Showers (Duschräume): This euphemism was used to describe the gas chambers, where victims were murdered with poisonous gas.
Evacuation (Evakuierung): Used to mislead victims about being transported to safety, it meant being sent to the death camps.
The use of these euphemisms was a deliberate strategy by the Nazi regime to normalize and justify their horrific actions, minimize resistance, and maintain a facade of legitimacy.

I was hoping Mike would make the connection.

These are processing facilities used to hold potential deportees while their due process is provided.

We are interested in what version of due process detainees are going to get - y'all always give this a gloss. What's the plan? Do they only tell you about the Gulag, or do they outline what the due process is? I'm sure it's changed, what has it changed to? And what are your quotas and caps? Are we honestly going to deport people who've been here 50 years, have family here, and this is all they know? Can y'all get into the messy part of this and tell us where you stand? What you think? Be on the lookout for anything regarding the new due process and let us know what it is?

Trump's domestic army

Great idea !!

They can clean ALL the houses in the US.

Especially their own toilets--if they have them. They may only have a SHARED 1-hole outhouse.

First assignment: Clean up their own sh!t.

Second assignment: Redo the first assignment.

And repeat until they get it RIGHT !!

IMHO, the Felon is poisoning ICE. When he's gone, ICE will have such a negative perception (much of it deserved), that it will be difficult for them to fulfill their actual role. They act like the gestapo now. Their previous role was very important, but I fear that will be lost in wave of anti-ICE sentiments. At the same time, scaling-back ICE (and firing the thugs in their ranks) would be red meat for the MAGA-verse.

The next POTUS should weed out the really bad agents (e.g. the ones who say "you have no rights"), change leadership (of course), and basically make them a lot less like the gestapo. "Your papers, please" is unacceptable in this country. As I've mentioned before, if detained by ICE, I could not quickly produce evidence of my US birth. I don't carry my passport or my birth certificate, and a driver's license doesn't specify my citizenship status. I'll wager most of us would be in the same boat.

IMHO, the Felon is poisoning ICE.

Yes. Further, I suspect ICE officers are also poisoning ICE. I haven't heard of mass resignations from ICE as their role has been expanded and detention quotas have been imposed. If there has been significant turnover, it hasn't made any news I can find. The little news I did find talked a bit about the difficulties in hiring new agents.

And that leads to:

The next POTUS should weed out the really bad agents

Is the culture at ICE one that rewards the bad agents (your "you have no rights" officers), basically turning the whole agency sour? I fear it may be. If so, ICE may need more than new leadership. It may need to be disbanded, just like the gestapo.

CBP may be suffering from the same issues. Just the initialisms - ICE and CBP - may be so damaged by the time the next POTUS takes office that the names can't be saved. All of DHS may need a broader reorganization. There are so many different agencies inside the department with police powers that it's easy to lose control of each little fiefdom in the Department.

I'm even slightly taken aback by the Department's name: Homeland security. It reminds me very much of things like the Fatherland and Motherland: names that put the country ahead of the individual. The most important part of this slightly crazy American Experiment is that the rights of the individual are raised and put ahead of the rights of the nation and state, with a few enumerated exceptions. So we don't protect the Mother/Father/Home land from the individual. We protect the individual from the government.

Right now, we're not doing a great job of that.

--Peter

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