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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: How does truth stand a chance?
Date: 09/17/2024 7:00 PM
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Turley,

" To be sure, Trump did not help himself with his wilder claims. These included debunked accounts of Haitian migrants eating people’s pets in Ohio, which Ohio’s Republican governor, Mike Dewine, has denied.

The issue is not fact-checking, but the failure to do so equally and accurately. ABC actually disseminated false information under the mantle of fact-checking, and that’s a real problem.

Moderator Linsey Davis admitted later that ABC did not want a repeat of what had happened in the last debate, wherein Trump was given free rein and the moderators limited themselves to asking questions and enforcing time limits. CNN was praised in that debate across the political spectrum for being even-handed."




https://jonathanturley.org/2024/09/16/with-fact-ch...
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Author: Goofyhoofy 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: How does truth stand a chance?
Date: 09/18/2024 12:10 AM
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Moderator Linsey Davis admitted later that ABC did not want a repeat of what had happened in the last debate, wherein Trump was given free rein and the moderators limited themselves to asking questions and enforcing time limits. CNN was praised in that debate across the political spectrum for being even-handed."

Of course Turkey thinks it was “even handed”. CNN did *nothing* to correct the gross misrepresentations which flooded out of Trump’s mouth. And as I recall - and I do since I pay attention to such things - CNN was widely mocked and criticized for putting such trash on the air without correcting the falsehoods.

That’s undoubtedly why ABC’s moderators decided to, you know MODERATE the debate, rather than sit there as stooges with stopwatches, unable to discern right from wrong, truth from lies. (It’s not a good look when your “news” is host to a bunch of falsehoods, although I’m willing to admit that Fox has managed to make a business of it.)
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: How does truth stand a chance?
Date: 09/18/2024 1:30 AM
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That’s undoubtedly why ABC’s moderators decided to, you know MODERATE the debate,

Except they didn't. They allowed Harris to repeat debunked falsehoods and actually changed the rules 30 minutes before the debate. Then some things they were allegedly "fact checking" about Trump turned out to be...misleading and false. Just a general failure all the way around.

You people are so used to having someone's thumb on the scale you think that's "normal". It's not.

If Harris was any good as a candidate she would have done this herself. But she's horrible at this and thus needed the help.
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Author: Lambo   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: How does truth stand a chance?
Date: 09/18/2024 4:02 AM
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You people are so used to having someone's thumb on the scale you think that's "normal". It's not.

If Harris was any good as a candidate she would have done this herself. But she's horrible at this and thus needed the help.


There's a permanent blizzard of lies that has enveloped MAGA, and this is part of it.
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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: How does truth stand a chance?
Date: 09/18/2024 7:19 AM
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Dope1: Except they didn't. They allowed Harris to repeat debunked falsehoods and actually changed the rules 30 minutes before the debate.

Which "debunked" falsehoods? And which rules were changed 30 minutes before the debate (link to the rules posted below)?

Dope1: Then some things they were allegedly "fact checking" about Trump turned out to be...misleading and false.

Again, which things? That doctors perform abortions of live, healthy newborns? Nope, that's a lie.

That Haitians are eating the pets? Nope, officials in Springfield confirmed there were no pets being eaten by Haitians.

That Trump never admitted losing the 2020 election? Nope, Trump had recently conceded on three separate occasions that he had lost the election to President Biden — despite years of not publicly admitting defeat.

That crime in the US had skyrocketed during the Biden administration because migrants are being allowed into the country? Nope, crime rates across the board are down significantly and it's been confirmed by study after study that migrants commit fewer crimes than natural born citizens.

Dope1: If Harris was any good as a candidate she would have done this herself. But she's horrible at this and thus needed the help.

Harris kicked Trump's ass for 90 minutes. Man up, admit it, and move along. You people sound delusional and pathetic. Democrats faced reality after president Biden's disastrous debate performance. We didn't whine that the rules were changed or Biden lost because Trump spewed a firehose of lies. MAGA republicans just refuse to leave the delusions of TrumpWorld despite repeatedly being shown that their emperor has no clothes..


https://abc30.com/post/abc-news-releases-rules-202...
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