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Author: albaby1 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Government deported a U.S. citizen with no process
Date: 04/29/2025 12:32 PM
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Sorry, you keep saying this, but you're not showing that this is happening. The people being deported are a) illegal b) have committed crimes c) been in front of judges already and d) have existing deportation orders and/or missed hearings (which triggers a deportation order).

This woman didn't commit any crimes that would make her at all a danger to the community. She's not someone to whom finite immigration resources should have been allocated. She wasn't "swept up" in an action against people who are a danger - she was detained at her normally scheduled check in meeting with ICE, which she dutifully attended.

Due process includes having a reasonable amount of time to ask a judge for relief about the specific thing that's happening to her. Which is being suddenly removed from the country without a reasonable opportunity to make arrangements for the infant child that is a U.S. citizen. The government deliberately tried to get her out of the country as fast as possible so that she couldn't have access to a lawyer or her spouse. You can still treat people unfairly even if there's already a deportation order. We treat people better than that when they've actually been convicted of a crime, giving them accommodations in their sentencing to make sure that innocent children aren't unnecessarily harmed. Some harm is often unavoidable, but part of due process is also having access to a judge to minimize the harm to dependent children from specific choices that are being made by the government.

No one's implementing a "Cloward-Piven" strategy. This is the existing situation. There is not now, and have never been, enough judges and lawyers and agents in the immigration system to deport more than a few hundred thousand people from the interior of the country in any given year. But Trump wants to deport more than that. So the problem isn't anyone trying to overwhelm the system (other than Trump). The problem is that the Administration is trying to do something that the government isn't staffed to do. Trump didn't want the bill that would have increased the staffing to pass last year, he didn't want to have a quick bill to pass the staffing earlier in his term, and he doesn't want to wait until well into the summer to get the staffing this year. So he's settled on walking back all the representations that the massive deportations would be focused on getting the bad people out, and instead is also including getting as many harmless people out as he can - while trying to deny them even the most basic hearings to examine either the fact of their deportations or the ways those deportations are being carried out.
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