Hi, Shrewd!        Login  
Shrewd'm.com 
A merry & shrewd investing community
Best Of UPSTBest OfAll BoardsThe Shrewd’m WeeklyLearn to InvestHow to Become Shrewd
Search
Shrewd'm.com Merry shrewd investors
Search
Best Of UPSTBest OfAll BoardsThe Shrewd’m WeeklyLearn to InvestHow to Become Shrewd


The week's question
In December 2024, in the thread "Re: BRK: Why Not XOM?", BreckHutHigh asked the members: "What about the long road trips with kids?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
Answer this questionContinue to Shrewd'mThis note won't appear again
Stocks A to Z / Stocks U / Upstart Holdings (UPST)
Unthreaded | Threaded | Whole Thread (1) |
Author: hiphop   😊 😞
Number: of 123 
Subject: Cash covered PUTS on UPST
Date: 12/24/22 9:31 AM
Post New | Post Reply | Report Post | Recommend It!
No. of Recommendations: 2
Hi All,

If you are still interested (or at least still believe in) UPST and want to invest, it would seem to me that cash covered puts are the most interesting position. Note that these are leveraged, and probably *NOT* a good idea, but just so everyone has an idea of what the numbers are:

Date     Strike  %ITM   Cash Req'd   Target         %return  Annualized  Income/Contract   Days to Go  UPST FOMO
Jan-23 13 1.52% $ 11.80 $ 1.20 10.17% 270.35% $ 120.00 27 14.2
Feb-23 12.5 5.30% $ 10.60 $ 1.90 17.92% 198.67% $ 190.00 55 14.4
Mar-23 12.5 5.30% $ 10.10 $ 2.40 23.76% 155.37% $ 240.00 83 14.9


So, basically, reading against this it means that the Feb 12.5 UPST PUT gives you an absolute return of 17.92% of money at risk, holding for 55 days, and it has to drop below 10.6 to lose money. You would have been better off buying the stock if it rises to 14.4 over those 55 days.

Still that is a rather hefty return (just short of 200% annualized).

-Gabriel (aka: HipHop)
Post New | Post Reply | Report Post | Recommend It!
Print the post
Members reply directly to hiphop here — and replies get answered. Reading is free; so is joining the conversation. Join Shrewd'm »
This community has written 123 posts about Upstart Holdings. The article-length ones it recommended most:
Upstart, an introduction · 17 recs · 2022
Upstart's cash burn · 13 recs · 2023
Upstart Breakeven Analysis · 8 recs · 2023
Upstart (UPST) Q2.2023 Forecast · 6 recs · 2023
Q1.2023 Forecast · 5 recs · 2023
Unthreaded | Threaded | Whole Thread (1) |


Announcements
Upstart Holdings FAQ
Contact Shrewd'm
Contact the developer of these message boards.

Best Of UPST | Best Of | Favourites & Replies | All Boards | Followed Shrewds | Open Questions | Moving a community