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No. of Recommendations: 2
Article says Obama doesn't think Kamala can win in November. He would prefer astronaut Mark Kelly at the top of the ticket even if it upsets Jim Clyburn and the Congressional Black Caucus.
At this point Obama's endorsement may not mean much. Looks like the train has already left the station.
https://nypost.com/2024/07/24/us-news/obama-doesnt...intercst
No. of Recommendations: 7
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Article says Obama...https://nypost.comYou're expecting us to take the New York Post seriously? WTAF?
Besides, I thought the cult was claiming that Obama was the de facto president pulling all the strings of government. So which is he: puppet master or completely powerless?
BTW, I pointed out yesterday that Kelly is probably the right choice for VP (Arizona + Georgia > Pennsylvania) but not at the top of the ticket. With Harris, voters are suddenly energized in the same way they were in 2007 and are beginning to believe a woman can win the presidency this time in the same way they realized a Black man could win the White House back then.
Besides, who in the world would vote for a sociopath who wants to let disabled kids die besides Scrooge McTrump?
No. of Recommendations: 6
Besides, who in the world would vote for a sociopath who wants to let disabled kids die besides Scrooge McTrump?
And not just any kid, but a relative (nephew, I believe).
Quite a contrast to another well known family with a disabled sibling - the Kennedys. In her younger days, Rosemary was included in the family activities as much as possible. After a lobotomy left her much worse off, her family made sure she was cared for until her passing in her 80s, with her remaining siblings at her side. In between was groundbreaking legislation protecting the rights of those with disabilities and the founding of the Special Olympics in her honor.
I’m not going to pretend the Kennedy family was perfect, because they weren’t. But this is one area they got right, and did so in multiple ways.
As the father of a disabled child, this one hits close to home for me.
—Peter
No. of Recommendations: 0
{{ You're expecting us to take the New York Post seriously? WTAF? }}
No. I'm suggesting you ponder why Obama has failed to endorse Kamala. She's going to have a harder time than Biden in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. Her electoral success requires opening up Georgia, Nevada, Arizona and even North Carolina. That seems like a heavy lift.
Maybe she'll get Taylor Swift's endorsement? {{ LOL }} That's the only one that matters.
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No. of Recommendations: 1
No. of Recommendations: 7
I'm suggesting you ponder why Obama has failed to endorse Kamala.
Do you really think Obama is not going to endorse the Democratic candidate against Trump? Do you really think he's wanting to kill her momentum that has most of the party behind her and record fund-raising?
Color me cynical, but I believe the endorsements are largely orchestrated for maximum effect. Obama is going last because he's probably still the heaviest hitter. She's been off to a great start without his endorsement. There may come a time later when she could use a boost, and he will provide it at a strategic time.
That's political strategy. Beats the heck out of "Find me 10,000 votes" or "Hang the Vice President".
No. of Recommendations: 13
I'm suggesting you ponder why Obama has failed to endorse Kamala.
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Barack Obama is still a relatively young enough "party elder" to be around and influential for probably five more Presidential cycles. At that point, he'll be 82 and we've apparently already established via this election that no one can be trusted beyond age 82, even if the alternative is hellbent on ceding half of NATO territories to Russia without firing a shot. Until Obama reaches the age of 82, he is always going to be expected to be or accused of wielding influence behind the scenes as a kingmaker as long as the Democratic party exists in its current political alignment with its current factions. Obama realizes no one likes the idea of "insiders" and "kingmakers" so he knows if he actually wants to PRESERVE that influence for particularly dire situtations, it's best not to seen wielding it when it isn't strictly necessary.
It absolutely isn't necessary at this time for him to be seen weighing in when anyone who might be a challenger has already publicly backed away. There is zero doubt he will be crucial in re-animating discontented or apathetic voters at the right point in the coming days and will excel at the task. ZERO.
WTH
No. of Recommendations: 5
No. I'm suggesting you ponder why Obama has failed to endorse Kamala.
I don't need to ponder. I already know.
Same thing happened in 2020. Obama will not get mixed up in primary politics. Once it is official (after the convention), then he endorses. As I recall, people were squirming about that in 2020 as well.
No. of Recommendations: 4
I'm suggesting you ponder why Obama has failed to endorse Kamala.
I pondered that it isn't something worth pondering at the moment. It isn't needed right now to swing things her way, so why waste it. You can be guaranteed he will be stumping for here before this is over.
No. of Recommendations: 6
No. I'm suggesting you ponder why Obama has failed to endorse Kamala.
At this point, it's pretty obvious that it's not because he wants someone else to be the nominee. That ship has sailed. Every plausible alternative has already endorsed her, and she has public commitments from a majority of delegates. No one's going to run against her.
There are a few alternatives. One possibility is the same reason that Sanders hasn't endorsed Kamala yet - that he wants something from her. A policy concession, a personnel choice - something that he wants from her potential Administration that he is going to trade an endorsement for.
A second possibility - and this is the one I favor - is that he recognizes that giving her his endorsement before the convention wouldn't be helping. The GOP is already in a fever dream that Obama secretly controls everything that's going on anyway, so everyone involved would be better off if Harris gets the formal nod without Obama endorsing her.
No. of Recommendations: 3
Replying again, apparently Obama's endorsement is expected to come later today:
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/25/obama-sup...Per the article, Obama is attributing the timing to what we discussed upthread: he didn't want to be seen as directing the party's choice of nominee. Not that he has any qualms about Harris, or wanted someone else:
But the wait before endorsing was intentional. A person familiar with Obama’s thinking said he didn’t want to put his thumb on the scale as the party worked through the process of determining its nominee.
“He believed it was important for the party to have a legitimate process where delegates select our new nominee, and he thinks VP Harris has been off to an impressive start,” the person said.
No. of Recommendations: 1
I knew he didn't want to be seen putting the thumb on the scale. Since the convention seems to be just a formality, endorsing soon is the same as waiting until after the convention. There is no scale anymore, it is going to be Harris.
No. of Recommendations: 3
This is classic Obama:
A person familiar with Obama’s thinking said he didn’t want to put his thumb on the scale as the party worked through the process of determining its nominee.
“He believed it was important for the party to have a legitimate process where delegates select our new nominee, and he thinks VP Harris has been off to an impressive start,” the person said.
He, Pelosi, Schumer and a few others got together and said 'Biden can't continue, who can we get'. His and Pelosi's fingerprints are all over this.
I told you that the people who really run the democrat party would choose your nominee :).
No. of Recommendations: 2
I don't necessarily agree with this piece:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13670981/...Barack Obama has not yet endorsed Kamala Harris' presidential bid because he is skeptical about her ability to beat Donald Trump, a Biden family insider has claimed.This I buy. Harris ran for President already...and had to drop out before the first primary.
The insider further went on to claim that Obama, 69, believes Harris is 'incompetent' and 'cannot navigate the landmines that are ahead of her'. This I also buy. Harris isn't known for being particularly adept at anything.
The source went on to allege that Obama would instead like to see Arizona senator and former NASA astronaut Mark Kelly 'at the top of the ticket' at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago next month.This I do not buy. Obama is the architect of the democrats' full-on race based victim group demographic strategy. Replacing Kamala with a white dude breaks his coalition and hands Trump the House and the Senate with comfortable majorities.
Obama knows all that, which is why it has to be Harris. Other than wife Michelle, they have no one else.
No. of Recommendations: 5
The insider further went on to claim that Obama, 69,
Dude. The Daily Mail is practically shouting at you that what they're publishing is on the level of The Onion. Similar basis in fact, but far less funny.
--Peter <== who knows exactly how old Obama is, because he was the first President younger than me. By just a few months, but still younger.
PS - I suspect the "Biden family insider" may be Commander
No. of Recommendations: 2
--Peter <== who knows exactly how old Obama is, because he was the first President younger than me. By just a few months, but still younger. - 1pg
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Made me look. Turns out Obama is first younger for me too. Clinton was next closest, older by 4 years. (fascinating stuff for the rest of the board. No need to thank me, thank my OCD)
No. of Recommendations: 11
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"Another MAGA conspiracy theory shot to hell. On to the next one!"
Astounding, isn't it.
I used to listen to Rush Limbaugh when I had to drive any distance on the freeway (which thankfully wasn't too often)to see what the oxyaddict was yakking about.
Then, in the evening, I'd read The Moldy Fool to see if there were any interesting trades, and of course, see what the Atheists had on their minds. The right-wing posters ... teacuppers/MAGAs whatever ... consistently regurgitated that days Rush Limbaugh lines. When challenged on the big fat liars talking points, they went silent on the topic, resorted to a logical fallacy, or baselessly claimed victory and pivoted.
Nothing has changed.
No. of Recommendations: 2
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Article says Obama doesn't think Kamala can win in November. He would prefer astronaut Mark Kelly at the top of the ticket even if it upsets Jim Clyburn and the Congressional Black Caucus.
At this point Obama's endorsement may not mean much. Looks like the train has already left the station.
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Good point for bringing up 'depth of bench' concept.
Shallow DIMM's have little to none... no depth, and apparently no bench period...
Stark, to say the least.
