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Author: Lear 🐝  😊 😞
Number: of 15061 
Subject: Past as Prologue?
Date: 09/24/2023 2:26 PM
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I'm still reviewing my DG position, and I've been reviewing DG's ups and downs over the years to that end. Those familiar with the price history will recall that DG had a major dip in August 2016 (from the mid $90s down to the high $60s), subsequent to its 2016 2Q report. Many of DG's challenges at the time resembled difficulties it is facing today:

In FY 2016, Wal-Mart was engaging in aggressive price cuts to draw traffic, whilst DG/WMT consumers were facing macro challenges. SNAP deductions were hitting the modal DG consumer. DG was ultimately compelled to 'invest' in labour, late in FY2016: https://fortune.com/2016/09/15/dollar-general-hiri.... There was still talk of Amazon destroying all brick and mortar. One of the results going forward was step down in operating margins, and an increase in SG&A costs relative to sales. From 2014-2016, DG had average operating margins of 9.45%; from 2017-2019, the average dropped to 8.4%. Relatedly, during these same periods, SG&A expenses were 21.4% versus 22.1%, respectively. In its 2016 3Q report, the firm's challenges were summarized:

"The challenging retail environment that we experienced in the 2016 second quarter continued into the third quarter, contributing to weakness in our same-store sales and our financial performance. In the 2016 third quarter, we invested in gross margin with the goal of driving traffic and sales over time. Many of these actions are gaining traction with our core customers, and we are encouraged by the early results. As expected, the full benefit on our same-store sales will not be immediate. In addition, we saw an acceleration in headwinds from average unit retail price deflation and reductions in SNAP benefits in the 2016 third quarter as compared to the 2016 second quarter. We are focused on efforts to drive traffic in our stores and to control the factors we can control as we look to overcome the issues impacting our results, many of which we believe are macroeconomic and transitory in nature," said Todd Vasos, Dollar General's chief executive officer.

The increase in SG&A costs, to 22.5% in Q3, was attributed to an increase in "retail labour and occupancy" costs.

The stock was mostly dead money for about 6 months before things turned around in 2017. The profitability of Dollar General was then further aided by the large cut in taxes, with the federal rate dropping from 35% to 21% (where it stands today).

In his 2021 letter, Bloomstran describes his buy thesis in 2017, and the decision to trim his holdings as the share price shot up during COVID: https://static.fmgsuite.com/media/documents/db64b9... (see pages 8 - 10. A very high-level overview of the Bloomstran 2017-18 buy thesis can be found here: https://moiglobal.com/dollar-general-201801/. As an aside: in January 2018, when the above was published, the stock was trading around $100 (with a share count about 20% above its current count), i.e., a stone's throw from today's price. Bloomstran was re-purchasing Dollar General, heavily, subsequent to the Q1 swoon: https://www.theinvestorspodcast.com/richer-wiser-h....

I don't mean to draw an exact comparison between the two time periods. There are a number additional differences to the downside between then and now, some of which aren't minor. For instance, the new CEO/CFO has had execution issues (e.g., on the supply and inventory front), and their ability to right the ship is still unproven; debt has ballooned to $7 billion, and the rise in interest rates has begun to increase interest expenses further; safety issues have intensified; there is risk of a moderate tax increase; hourly wages have gone up, and there are further challenges in today's tight labour market (e.g., see Wal-Mart's recent wage hikes, which are surely intended to further out-compete DG on labour), etc.

But a tour through the 2016 and 2017 reporting sure has a lot in it that is quite similar to what we're hearing today.





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Author: rivervalley   😊 😞
Number: of 15061 
Subject: Re: Past as Prologue?
Date: 09/25/2023 5:31 PM
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Another excellent post, Lear. Thank you for sharing your ideas with this board.
I appreciate your historical analysis, as well as your links to additional complementary info.

One factor that I didnt see you mention, and one that Ive been thinking about with regard to DG - is population growth / decline in rural and non-metro regions of the US, where I assume DG does most of its business. At least those are the areas we keep hearing about in the context of - lots of small town where there is just a gas station and a DG FD or DLTR.

First of all - I'd love to know the distribution of DG stores by urban / rural or finer distinctions like metro, metro adjacent, rural..
https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/rural-urban...

Here are a couple of things I was able to find that are relevant to this discussion; if folks have better sources please do share.

Here is a link to a website providing info - supposedly from the World Bank but perhaps from US census population estimator - suggesting small declines in rural population over the last few years
https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-s...

Here is another source suggesting recent growth in non-metro areas - post covid...but whether this has or will reverse is a ?
https://carsey.unh.edu/publication/snapshot/recent...
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Author: Lear 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Past as Prologue?
Date: 09/25/2023 11:20 PM
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Thanks for the comments, rivervalley, and the thoughtful questions.

I agree the issues raised are important, and have similarly been trying to find better granular data on the exact rural v non-rural makeup of DG stores. The annual report mentions that more than 80% of stores are in towns with less than 20, 000 people, but that's a pretty broad brush (I believe it used to be 75%, so it appears they've been growing, not shrinking, that focus on smaller population centers) -- I think they key question is how many DGs operate in conditions where a WMT or similar isn't feasible, and WMTs can operate in towns decently smaller than 20k. So how much of that 80% is contained in non-WMT geographical areas? And, ideally, how many of those locations don't have a nearby FDO/DLTR store?

I haven't found what I'm looking for yet, and I don't think DG has straightforwardly provided the data. One recent claim I've found is by Mostly Borrowed Ideas / Abdullah Al-Rezwan, namely that the number of DG stores that are 5 miles or greater from the closest Wal-Mart may be as high as close to half:

https://twitter.com/borrowed_ideas/status/17062934...

The analysis is in his "Deep Dive" on DG, but I'm not a paid subscriber, so I'm not sure how he arrives at that figure.

On the issue of population decline, I haven't had a close look yet. This other, longer Kenneth Johnson piece puts things into a wider perspective: https://carsey.unh.edu/publication-rural-america-l....

It seems to me that the population numbers today and in the next 5-10 years are unlikely to be too different, in absolute terms (as opposed to as a share of total population), as compared to the period of time (e.g., 2009-2022) wherein DG was achieving exceptional results. Though that may be true for some regions (e.g., the South) more than others (the Midwest), as rural population declines have been uneven. Perhaps I'm underestimating the possibility of rapid decline.

All that said, I don't really have a good answer myself, and there has been a troubling trend of same store sales weakness as of late. I suspect it's a mix of labour (anecdotally I've seen several reports of unscheduled store closures due to staffing issues, and it doesn't take much to veer of trend if this is a new issue), supply chain, and other structural issues (e.g., newer stores tend to grow in sales in their first 4-5 years, so one would expect DG's aggregate same store sales to stall in growth as their % of mature stores becomes a greater portion of their total footprint), as opposed to demographic changes, but I'd be curious to see a systematic look at the issue.
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