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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: A reaction to the UN speech
Date: 09/23/2025 5:58 PM
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From across the pond:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c179p4wvz29o

Six years ago Trump's UN audience laughed, this year they were silent

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHA there's no way we become dependent on Russia for energy! Oh, wait - Joachim! What the hell is this geschissen??? You mean he has a point???

And now:

Donald Trump's speech to the United Nations was one of the clearest expositions of the way he sees the world, his ideology in its rawest form.

To his supporters, it will be seen as Trumpism unplugged; to his critics, Trumpism unhinged.

Over almost an hour, he took aim at his opponents and their ideas, picking them off one by one as he toured the world. He began at home, praising the United States and himself. He said the US was living through a golden age and repeated his much-disputed claim that he had personally ended seven wars, something he argued merited a Nobel Peace Prize.

But then the president laid into his hosts. The UN, he said, had not helped his peace-making. He questioned the organisation's purpose, saying it had tremendous potential but was not living up to that. All it did, he claimed, was write strongly worded letters that it did not follow up. Empty words, he said, did not end wars.


A surprisingly fair take from the Beeb. It also happens to be true, every word. Funny, that. Except for the "hosts" thing.

And here's a hilariously telling segment:
But on another level Trump can be seen himself a cause and symptom of the UN's lack of effectiveness; for he believes global crises are best resolved by powerful men like him getting together and hammering out a deal, not using multilateral bodies like the UN to work out collective solutions. Under Trump, the US has withdrawn much of its UN funding, leaving the body forced to cut its humanitarian work around the world.

Then why aren't European nations paying more? Or China? lol @ this stuff. One of you will run in here and claim "bbbut Europe is paying more" and if you do you should tell that to the BBC, because clearly they don't believe it.

In practice, Hungary and Slovakia are the only substantive European buyers of Russian oil. Diplomats say Mr Trump is hiding behind this so he does not have to impose secondary sanctions on India and China which are both buying huge amounts of cheap Russian energy, both of whom were cited by Trump.

Europe is either serious about ending the war in the Ukraine or it is not. As noted, sometimes sacrifices are needed and if it costs a point of two of GDP because Europeans have to pay more for mops and iPhones from China that seems worthy.

Climate change, he claimed to audible gasps, was "the greatest con job ever perpetrated on the world" and was lumbering European countries with expensive energy costs compared to fossil fuels. He criticised in particular the UK government for imposing new taxes on North Sea oil.

"If you don't get away from the green energy scam, your country is going to fail," he said.


And Trump is right again.
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Author: jerryab   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: A reaction to the UN speech
Date: 09/23/2025 6:03 PM
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sometimes sacrifices are needed

Load Spankee into his Battle Diapers and OFF HE GOES !! Major sacrifices completed !!
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Subject: Re: A reaction to the UN speech
Date: 09/23/2025 6:11 PM
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Dope1: All it did, he claimed, was write strongly worded letters that it did not follow up. Empty words, he said, did not end wars.

You mean like these: "I'll let you know in about a month from now, okay?"
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Author: onepoorguy   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: A reaction to the UN speech
Date: 09/23/2025 7:16 PM
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"If you don't get away from the green energy scam, your country is going to fail," he said.

And Trump is right again.


No. He isn't. Green energy is the future. We aren't at peak oil yet, evidently. But eventually we will be. And prices will climb, and we won't be ready.

China is investing in it heavily. They're going to eat our lunch in a decade. Maybe two. One advantage of their system (possibly the only advantage) is they can plan decades ahead, and there is no derailing it because some populist wins an office. We can't even have a consistent policy about almost anything over the span of 10 years.
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