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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Weisselberg's Perjury Plea Deal
Date: 02/01/2024 8:30 PM
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Allen H. Weisselberg, just one in the seemingly endless line of criminals in the Orange Jesus cult, is in negotiations to plead guilt to perjury.

Although the potential agreement is unlikely to immediately affect Mr. Trump, it could strengthen Mr. Bragg’s hand before the former president’s trial. It could deter other witnesses in Mr. Trump’s circle from lying on the stand. And perjury charges could discredit Mr. Weisselberg, who has disputed details of the prosecution’s evidence in the case involving the 2016 election.

If the plea deal goes through, this will be his second guilty plea in Manhattan in two years.

He only hires the best.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/01/nyregion/weisse...
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I wonder if this could cause Judge Engoron to delay, and perhaps increase, his fine assessment in the Trump organization fraud case brought by AG Letitia James in New York.
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I wonder if this could cause Judge Engoron to delay, and perhaps increase, his fine assessment in the Trump organization fraud case brought by AG Letitia James in New York.

Perhaps it is the reason he deferred setting a final penalty. It's very difficult to put a final number to a penalty for a 30+ year crime wave whose bottom has not necessarily been plumbed.

First, the November 2023 news about $40 million dollars in various cash transfers between Trump personal and Trump corporate accounts that were not shared with the court appointed monitor.

Then the January 2024 news about a $48 million dollar "loan" that Trump appeared to fabricate between himself and a shell company of his tied to his Chicago Trump Tower that had ZERO paperwork identifying terms, rates, etc. The head legal counsel for Trump Organization may also find himself in legal trouble because in refuting any impropriety, he didn't even get the story straight. Trump himself alleged the loan was from Trump the persion to the Trump shell. The company's chief legal counsel argued back to the monitor it was the exact opposite -- the shell company lent the money to Trump. WHAAAAAAAT? It's a really good idea when you are on trial for fraud, have already lost other fraud trials and are facing multiple CRIMINAL trials to get your defendant's story straight in court.

Now finding Trump's CFO is pleading guilty to additional perjury in testimony regarding the accounting practices involved in all of these scams? Not a good look to present to a judge deciding on a nine digit civil penalty.


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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Date: 02/02/2024 12:15 PM
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Then the January 2024 news about a $48 million dollar "loan" that Trump appeared to fabricate between himself and a shell company of his tied to his Chicago Trump Tower that had ZERO paperwork identifying terms, rates, etc. - wth

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"appeared", so not yet final. But if true and is used as defense against some accusation, I would agree that lack of paperwork supporting the loan is suspicious and indicative of some sort of cover-up. The entire circumstances should be thoroughly investigated and prosecuted where crimes can be proven. Even when it's Trump, fake loans are no excuse....

Now, lets explore, with equal vigor, all those incestuous and apparently undocumented loans between Biden family members and between 20 or so shell companies that don't seem to have any products, or any services or any reason to exist. Agree?
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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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bighairymike: Now, lets explore, with equal vigor, all those incestuous and apparently undocumented loans between Biden family members and between 20 or so shell companies that don't seem to have any products, or any services or any reason to exist.

The Washington Post did that. They found nothing nefarious. Funny, isn't it, that the whole republican House rush to impeach president Biden has suddenly vanished. Now it's attention has moved on to Mayorkas (nothing there, either).

And you -- brainwashed by the Comer republicans -- keep harping that the shell companies, the LLCs, "don't seem to have any products, or any services". LLCs often don't have products or services. But the suggestion that they don't have "any reason to exist" is complete nonsense.

Finally, if you're concerned about the Bidens 20 shell companies (and just how many of them are Joe Biden's, BTW?), you should be REALLY concerned about Donald Trump's 500+ shell companies... although they don't seem to concern you at all.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/12/14...
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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BHM: Now, lets explore, with equal vigor, all those incestuous and apparently undocumented loans between Biden family members and between 20 or so shell companies that don't seem to have any products, or any services or any reason to exist.

Mike, there's no skullduggery indicated by having 20 LLCs. It's common place if you have money, even if you don't have real money. If it houses assets, there's no product or service. People who have separate property in a marriage can have an LLC just for their separate bank account which they use to prevent "commingling of funds" in case of divorce. It's just innuendo by Comer, and if anything were there Comer would have found a way to get it investigated for a real trial some time ago.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Mike, there's no skullduggery indicated by having 20 LLCs.

Right, because most people meet regularly with corporate partners of our strategic rivals, folks with ties to foreign intelligence services.
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DOPE:Mike, there's no skullduggery indicated by having 20 LLCs.

Right, because most people...


You left off:

It's common place (to have LLCs) if you have money, even if you don't have real money.
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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Mike, there's no skullduggery indicated by having 20 LLCs. It's common place if you have money, even if you don't have real money. If it houses assets, there's no product or service. People who have separate property in a marriage can have an LLC just for their separate bank account which they use to prevent "commingling of funds" in case of divorce. - Lapsody

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I see your point but LLC's set up for the purposes such as those you mention usually don't have foreign entities making payments to them. Still, may be nothing, but deserves serious investigation.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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You left off:

It's common place (to have LLCs) if you have money, even if you don't have real money.


You know who spider webs LLCs? Really rich people looking for tax breaks...and people who want to hide where their money comes from.

Like the Bidens.

And you left off Hunter having extensive ties with the Chinese. Whoops.
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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I see your point but LLC's set up for the purposes such as those you mention usually don't have foreign entities making payments to them. Still, may be nothing, but deserves serious investigation.

Mike, if it deserves serious investigation the group set up to investigate Hunter Biden can cause that. They haven't caused it. It looks like a big Congressional innuendo festival. So far nothing solid.
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So far nothing solid.

Other than far more evidence of official influence peddling and corruption than ever existed when the democrats went after Trump over it.

LOL.
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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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bighairymike: I see your point but LLC's set up for the purposes such as those you mention usually don't have foreign entities making payments to them.

The House Committee already addressed this, and has been noted "the committee does not suggest any illegality about the payments from foreign sources."

You keep dredging up old news. The Bidens made money on the family name, just like the relatives of Carter, Reagan, Bush, Obama, Trump, and just about every other modern president or prominent politician. There's virtually no way to legislate against it.

And you might be taken a little more seriously had you ever had a problem with the Trumps' businesses while they were in government. Donald, Ivanka, and Jared all conducted business with foreign governments WHILE IN OFFICE.
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You know who spider webs LLCs? Really rich people looking for tax breaks...and people who want to hide where their money comes from.

Yes. But 20 LLCs is small, and you need some offshore corps in the tax haven countries:

Country................% of tax havens

British Virgin Islands 6.45%
Cayman Islands 5.99%
Bermuda 5.67%
Netherlands 5.54%
Switzerland 5.11%
Luxembourg 4.1%
Hong Kong 4.08%
Jersey 3.89%
Singapore 3.87%
United Arab Emirates 3.76%

Got any Corporations from these countries? No. Comer would tell you.

Your Innuendo doesn't make it Dope. Come up with something solid and prosecute him.


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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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And you might be taken a little more seriously had you ever had a problem with the Trumps' businesses while they were in government. Donald, Ivanka, and Jared all conducted business with foreign governments WHILE IN OFFICE. = CO

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Lets talks goods and services,
Trump - luxury hotels and resorts and golf courses
Ivanka - Designer clothing and fashion accessories
Jared - Investment banking and private wealth management

Your turn, what products do these LLC's produce or if no products, what assets do they hold and for who? No need to list all 20, just a few will do....

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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Come up with something solid and prosecute him.

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Working on it. drip drip..
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Here ya go BHM.


‘Shell’ companies

Comer often suggests that the Biden family used these so-called shell companies to launder money; in his telling, such companies served no legitimate function. But that claim is undercut by the list of 21 companies that appear in the second staff memo.

Virtually all of the companies (many of which now are defunct) had legitimate business interests. Others had clearly identified business investments. Digging through the records, we find only three whose business purpose remains vague; one (Rosemont Seneca Global Risk Services, LLC) may not even be related to Hunter Biden, according to an email found in Hunter Biden’s laptop. The memos do not list any payments that flowed through these three companies.

Companies founded by Hunter Biden

Seneca Global Advisors was a boutique consulting firm that Hunter Biden founded in 2008 to help small and midsize companies expand into markets in the U.S. and other countries, according to a 2019 interview he gave to the New Yorker. OpenSecrets.org identifies it as “a lobbying firm that was hired by 9 clients in 2008, for a total amount of $210,000.” All of the clients are identified.
Owasco PC was essentially Hunter Biden’s law firm and did legal work. One memo acknowledges it is “a professional corporation.” The memo also lists an Owasco LLC and Skaneateles, LLC, two of the companies whose purpose remains vague. Hunter Biden named his personal LLCs, used to handle payments like payroll, after towns in New York’s Finger Lakes region, where his mother was born, according to a former business partner.

Companies in partnership with Hunter Biden

Rosemont Seneca Partners, founded in 2009 by Hunter Biden, Devon Archer and Christopher Heinz. The third staff memo identifies it as “central to the Bidens’ later business ventures,” confirming that it is not a shell company. Many of the other supposed shell companies are offshoots of this firm.
Rosemont Seneca Advisors in 2017 had investment projects in West Africa and a 5 percent stake in Harves Amusement Parks and ownership in Harves Sports and Entertainment, both in China. A 2011 email in Hunter Biden’s laptop suggests most of his business was done through this entity.
Rosemont Seneca Technology Partners (RSTP) still exists under a different name, Pilot Growth Equity. As we have previously reported, Rosemont Seneca Partners had a stake in RSTP, which invested in emerging technology companies. In 2014, the Wall Street Journal reported that Hunter Biden had been discharged that February from the Navy Reserve after testing positive for cocaine use. Biden had not disclosed the discharge to RSTP members and so in early 2015 he was eased out of the firm, which has since rebranded itself as Pilot Growth Equity and declined to comment.
RSTP II Alpha and RSTP II Bravo were related venture capital funds that registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The investments included a genetics testing company called Counsyl, according to a 2014 Forbes article.
Rosemont Seneca Bohai, created in 2014 to invest in a Chinese fund generally known as BHR Partners, was a replacement vehicle for Rosemont Seneca Thornton, LLC, mentioned below.
RSP Holdings is described in an SEC document as the parent company of RSP Investments, which aimed to “provide private placement services, hedge fund marketing and capital introduction services.” The memo does not mention RSP Investments but has a listing for Rosemont Seneca Principal Investments, presumably the same company.
Hudson West III and Hudson West IV were involved in an energy investment deal with CEFC China Energy, a Chinese energy conglomerate. Comer has decried the deal as “a scheme to try to get China to buy liquefied natural gas,” indicating he knows these are not shall companies.

Companies with a Hunter Biden connection

Rosemont Realty LLC, founded in 1991. Hunter Biden was not on the Rosemont Realty management team but was listed as part of the board of advisers of the firm, which was managed by Devon Archer. This was a substantial company; in 2013, its website showed it owned properties in 25 states, including Comer’s home state of Kentucky. Archer was recently interviewed by the Oversight Committee and he tried to explain that a wire transfer of $3.5 million from Elena Baturina, a Russian billionaire, that interested the committee was part of a $120 million investment with Rosemont Realty that was unrelated to Hunter Biden. “Rosemont Realty was completely out of his, kind of, portfolio,” Archer said.
Lion Hall Group and JBB SR are associated with Joe Biden’s brother James Biden. Lion Hall is a consulting group, according to a Washington Post investigation, while JBB SR has been described in Ben Schreckinger’s 2021 book “The Bidens” as managing two businesses that sold medical and agricultural products. James Biden hung up the phone when the Fact Checker identified himself.
Robinson Walker LLC, founded in 2008 by John Robinson “Rob” Walker, and CEFC Infrastructure Investment, once a subsidy of a Chinese energy company, are not Biden family companies at all but are listed because they transferred funds to Biden family members. Walker, who at one point was a managing director of Rosemont Seneca Advisors, could not be reached for comment.

One named ‘shell’ company

Rosemont Seneca Thornton LLC is the one company specifically named in a staff memo as a shell company. As we have reported, this entity was created in 2013 to invest in BHR Partners, the Chinese fund. But almost as soon as Rosemont Seneca Thornton was created, the partners decided to dissolve it, according to a person with access to the board minutes. Thornton Group, one of the investors, was run by Jim Bulger, who brought expertise in investing in China. But the original structure had added unexpected regulatory burdens to Thornton, and so Bulger’s lawyers advised that the group split up, this person said. Archer, in his interview, confirmed this to committee investigators, saying the creation of the LLC was “a mistake.”

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Dope1: You know who spider webs LLCs? Really rich people looking for tax breaks...and people who want to hide where their money comes from.

Like the Bidens.

And you left off Hunter having extensive ties with the Chinese. Whoops.


Again, Trump has more than 500 LLCs

And for crying out loud, Trump tried for years to get trademarks approved in China. China’s approval of one of Trump’s trademark applications came only a few days after Trump reversed his previous position and endorsed the “one China” policy.

In March 2017, China granted preliminary approval for 38 additional Trump trademarks.

Trump's first major real estate transaction after his inauguration was a $15.8 million penthouse apartment sale in Trump Tower to Chinese-American business executive Xiao Yan Chen who has been directly linked to a front group for Chinese military intelligence.

Trump holds 30 percent ownership of an office building in Manhattan at 1290 Avenue of the Americas, for which four lenders, including the state-owned Bank of China, provided a $950 million loan.

Whoops.
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Lets talks goods and services,
Trump - luxury hotels and resorts and golf courses
Ivanka - Designer clothing and fashion accessories
Jared - Investment banking and private wealth management

Your turn, what products do these LLC's produce or if no products, what assets do they hold and for who? No need to list all 20, just a few will do....


Is he actually complaining about this? Biden's history of corruption goes back a ways, to his "fire that guy if you want the $1 billion" qui pro quo. I don't recall anybody having a problem with that...
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"Biden's history of corruption goes back a ways, to his "fire that guy if you want the $1 billion" qui pro quo." - Dope1

Pretty ironic that this was posted by a person that just the other day was complaining about made up stories the media carried too far.

LOL. Some people never learn and like getting constantly laughed at with their tin foil hat on their head.
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Now, lets explore, with equal vigor, loans between Biden family members and between 20 or so shell companies. Agree?

Subtract all the nonsense verbiage you learned on Fox. Now explain what cause exists for a vigorous exploration?

To the non-attorney's eye, there's nothing but MAGA partisan desire to show that somebody else is as crooked as their orange messiah.

It's like the decades of KenStarr's ; thousands and thousands of hours of snooping and litigation, and what did they come up with? A semen stained dress.

A phenomenal waste of the nations time and attention. Total waste of the nations time by the house majority when they should be working on productive legislation.

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A phenomenal waste of the nations time and attention. Total waste of the nations time by the house majority when they should be working on productive legislation. - sano

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Loans between Biden family members have been explored in depth:

"The $200,000 payment from James Biden on March 1, 2018, was labeled “loan repayment” in the memo field on the check, and Democrats on the oversight committee say bank records also show a payment from Joe Biden to his brother six weeks prior, which they say is consistent with a no-interest, short-term loan to James Biden."
https://www.factcheck.org/2023/10/cherry-picking-i...
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Things I'm wondering...

What will The Country do when he wins the election this fall? We know the Repugs will never take him off the ballot, and think of the retaliatory weaponization of the Justice Department sure to come. Will he pardon himself? Will any of these financial frauds matter? Will he get his buddy Vladimir to cover his debts in return for withdrawing all military aid to Ukraine?

Will Biden make it to the election? If not, would people vote for the empty suit Harris over OJ? How many would run against her?

What "fun"...
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Sigh.

Trump still doesn't understand.

Many in the world - always have.

Since the beginning of time.
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It's like the decades of KenStarr's ; thousands and thousands of hours of snooping and litigation, and what did they come up with? A semen stained dress.

And compared to the things Trump has said and DONE? Makes Clinton look like a boy scout.

But the worse Trump behaves, the more the MAGA cult loves him. Odd to say the least.
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Still, may be nothing, but deserves serious investigation.

When there is so much serious work that needs to be done in D.C., why waste the time and money on fishing expeditions?

Nobody has proven they are harmed. There's no skeletons, no defrauded charities, no illegal fleecing of campaign funds, ... just a stream of allegations that turn out to be bogus.
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A phenomenal waste of the nations time and attention. Total waste of the nations time by the house majority when they should be working on productive legislation. - sano
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Good snark except for the fact that there was plenty of Russian election interference intended to harm Clinton and help Trump. Do you not recall the trials and convictions that resulted from the investigations?

Hold MY beer.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive...

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What will The Country do when he wins the election this fall? We know the Repugs will never take him off the ballot, and think of the retaliatory weaponization of the Justice Department sure to come


You people can’t spew hate left and right from the President’s bully pulpit to the media all the way down to obscure internet message boards and not expect to see a reaction.

In years past when a Republican would win and liberals would cry I wouldn’t gloat and I would assure them that we’re all Americans.

That’s all done now. You can’t say the things leftists say and support political violence, lawfare and weaponization of the federal government as they do and call yourself an American. That descriptor and the actions of many progressives aren’t compatible.


So if Trump wins, my suggestion is that many of you take action. Move to Costa Rica. Renounce your citizenship and enrich some other country with your wisdom. I think we’ve had enough of it here.
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Nobody has proven they are harmed. - sano

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Exactly like the NY lawsuit over Trumps real estate loans.
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Exactly like the NY lawsuit over Trumps real estate loans.

Not even close.

Falsifying loan docs is actionable. You should know this.
As such, further investigation is warranted/justifiable, and if the falsified loan docs result in unpaid taxes, it might be an intentional tax evasion. Do you understand tax evasion can be civil or criminal?

"Tucked into a footnote in a letter written by former federal judge Barbara Jones, the court-appointed special monitor overseeing Donald Trump's New York business fraud case is a bombshell that appears to indicate the former president may have engaged in massive tax evasion....."It appears that Trump knowingly and intentionally broke the law. The only question is how many laws.""

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"I see your point but LLC's set up for the purposes such as those you mention usually don't have foreign entities making payments to them. Still, may be nothing, but deserves serious investigation."

1. Hunter Biden and James Biden did not work for the federal government. At all. Never have. Neither has ever ran for public office ever either. Do you support congress going on fishing expeditions on all private citizens or only ones who are close to Democratic presidents?
2. LLC's set up to in order to do business in foreign countries do often have foreign entities making payments into them.
3. Why don't you have the same interest in investigating large payments and investments from foreign entities going to any of the numerous LLCs owned by Trump when he was actually in office and had power to set policies? Same for his children and their families.
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