BHM: Sorry if I wasn't clear. I was disputing the liberal notion that had the J6 protesters prevailed, our democracy would have been lost.

Never heard that liberal notion. At first we were watching videos of people staying between velvet ropes, and were wondering who zip tie guys were. Then the crazy videos and it still wasn't clear what was going on, but I don't think anyone in the press knew what was going on. Then the scheme with the elector slates came out, and why they wanted to hang Mike Pence. But from the git go no one ever thought that wold work, and I read a lot of junk about it until finally some good analysis came out. But I don't recall any analysis stating we almost lost our democracy. I inferred that if there had been a problem we end up in the USSC. Then the 12th Amendment was referenced. But if you read the 12th and it's uses, etc., it doesn't apply - it was just BS that by chaos we would get thrown into the 12th and the House votes with each state getting a vote. So you knew there was an attempt that failed, but who were all of these people? What were the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers doing there? What was this scaffold?

Then slowly the mosaic gets put together and it becomes clear the extent to which Trump tried to stay in power. It also becomes clear that the FBI, etc., had been asleep. After we got used to it, it just seemed to take forever to get cases off the ground - disheartening. Look at all the people involved who compromised their morals or didn't have any and may go to prison, the huge number of people who think the election was stolen, and these strange militant groups going to prison for Trump. Good thing Trump was incompetent.

This is a continuing threat to our democracy, it hasn't gone away.