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Trump’s Plan

Goal: Win by any means necessary. Legal if possible. By force if necessary

Right now, he is laying the groundwork for Insurrection 2.0

Intimidation

Lies

Flooding the zone with “polls” that suggest a Trump win.

He is setting the stage for saying “I won”, even if he doesn’t. I mean….”look at all the polls!” (Last time it wS “Look at the size of my rallies!”)

This time, the lawsuits he’s filed have already, for the most part, been swatted down (this time- before the election rather than after), and many of the loopholes in election law have been tightened up. It’s doubtful that Trump will be able to pull off a “legal coup”.

Which makes it more likely that his last ditch effort will be a reprise of “Come to Washington on January 6. It will be wild!”

Get ready.

So what are you going to do about it?

Like a football player psycho g yourself up for the big play, you’re saying that Trump is going to launch a revolution to seize power.

Take the US by force.

Appoint himself President for life.

So what are you going to do about it?

You’ve talked a lot. What action are you willing to take?

So what are you going to do about it?

At age 75, I’m doing and will continue to do what I can.

What are you doing?

At age 75, I’m doing and will continue to do what I can.

Okay, so nothing, which is what I thought. Based on your rhetoric you should be stockpiling arms and food in the mountains Red Dawn-style.

But we both know the apocalyptic predictions are crap. As in, 100% full of it.

What are you doing?

Proudly dropped off my ballot already. And pointing out the obviously ridiculous things that people who can’t argue a point of view put on the internet.

Okay, so nothing, which is what I thought.

Then you’d be wrong.

Then you’d be wrong.

Ordered yourself one of these babies, amirite?

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=in+this+house+we+believ...

Ordered yourself one of these babies, amirite?

That’s certainly what Daily Wire and Hot Air would have you believe.

That’s certainly what Daily Wire and Hot Air would have you believe.

That's what I thought. No lib here is ever willing to go on the record with *anything*.

Why is it so hard for you people to be honest about what you really think? It's just the internet. It's not like you're in an LSU Tiger Bar proclaiming your love for all things Alabama Crimson Tide.

Why is it so hard for you people to be honest about what you really think?

I’ve told you what I think, over and over again.

The question of the moment is:
“What are you doing?” You’ve said you voted and yell at liberals here. Great! But I imagine you’re doing more.

High interest voters like you and me also donate to candidates’ campaigns.

I’ve donated to Harris/Walz campaign several times

Democratic Senate Campaign

Colin Allred’s campaign against Cançun Ted, several times.

Both Senate and House candidates here in MI

Debbie Mucarsel-Powell’s Senate campaign in Florida against Medicare fraudster, Rick Scott.

Also volunteered to serve as a poll worker here in Lenawee County, but haven’t heard back here in Trump Country- doesn’t surprise me

And of course, COVID’s over, so it’s back to in-person voting… first Tuesday of November. Polling location is just 400 yards from my front door, here in the little town I live in.

I doubt seriously that Trump will be screaming this time to “Stop The Count” of those absentee ballots, so yours should be safe.

I’ve told you what I think, over and over again

Have you, now.
You're on record as saying that Hitler is about to storm the Reichstag and declare himself emperor. Your list doesn't reflect that statement.

Plenty of militia in your neck of the woods (I've lived in Michigan before). Why not take up with them?

Or...would you care to admit that the HITLERHITLERNAZIHITLER rhetoric is silly, over the top, and unfounded?

You're on record as saying that Hitler is about to storm the Reichstag and declare himself emperor. Your list doesn't reflect that statemen

Distort much?

My list reflects what any law abiding citizen might do to prevent the unthinkable.

But there are limits to what we can do.

Distort much?

Nope. I notice that board libs also tend to forget what they post. Or they run away from it.

Here's you just the other day:

http://shrewdm.com/MB?pid=965504378

We shall see in two weeks whether or not enough voters can defend the Constitutional order…. Or are willing to plunge this country into a nightmare that has been repeated many times over the course of history- some worse than others, but all of them, in retrospect-tragic.

And I am not speaking hyperbolically

Running away.

And then there's this gem of a post:
http://shrewdm.com/MB?pid=796275350

Goal: Win by any means necessary. Legal if possible. By force if necessary

Right now, he is laying the groundwork for Insurrection 2.0

Intimidation

Lies

Flooding the zone with “polls” that suggest a Trump win.

He is setting the stage for saying “I won”, even if he doesn’t. I mean….”look at all the polls!” (Last time it wS “Look at the size of my rallies!”)

This time, the lawsuits he’s filed have already, for the most part, been swatted down (this time- before the election rather than after), and many of the loopholes in election law have been tightened up. It’s doubtful that Trump will be able to pull off a “legal coup”.

Which makes it more likely that his last ditch effort will be a reprise of “Come to Washington on January 6. It will be wild!”

Get ready.

This you, bro?

This you, bro?

It is.

Every word.

Your point?

It’s not Hitler storming the Reichstag.

It’s Trump trying to steal an election, and if he fails, then he might storm the Capitol.

For the second time…. So it’s not as if we’re talking about something out of the realm of possibility. Might even be a high probability.

This time, he’ll be more prepared and it will bloodier.

Forewarned is forearmed.

And if it doesn’t happen, so much the better. Then we can all be friends and sing Kum By Yah.

Dope does it again.


And the Quarterback is toast.


A chalk out of a sheep remains on the field

Distort much?

Nope. I notice that board libs also tend to forget what they post. Or they run away from it.

Here's you just the other day:

But he's pretty much on point Dope. Can't blame anyone for thinking that.

It is.

Every word.

Your point?

You're the one claiming that Trump is going to stomp the Constitution and launch a new insurrection, but then you accuse me of distorting your words.

Do you tend to forget what you put on the board?

It’s Trump trying to steal an election, and if he fails, then he might storm the Capitol.

For the second time…. So it’s not as if we’re talking about something out of the realm of possibility. Might even be a high probability.

This time, he’ll be more prepared and it will bloodier.

Forewarned is forearmed.

And if it doesn’t happen, so much the better. Then we can all be friends and sing Kum By Yah.

Okay. So are you preparing for Civil War v2? Got your MREs, a 60 day supply of clean water and plenty of ammo?

No?

But he's pretty much on point Dope. Can't blame anyone for thinking that.

Uhhh, yeah I can.

Because it's nonsense on stilts.

Your turn. If Trump is going to bloodily overturn the government and usher in the 4th Reich as you people are claiming...what are you doing about it?

Planning to move?
Gonna go underground, and start you up a band of resistance fighters?

What?

Or are you full of it also?

Okay. So are you preparing for Civil War v2? Got your MREs, a 60 day supply of clean water and plenty of ammo?

If Trump is willing to start a Civil War by trying (again) to steal an election, perhaps you should ask yourself that question.

If Trump is willing to start a Civil War by trying (again) to steal an election, perhaps you should ask yourself that question.

He's not. The left and their rhetoric are FOS. From Harris and the media right on down to this board.

But if you really and truly believe that, why aren't you arming up? The rhetoric you people are spewing suggests you should be.

Some democrats don't believe what Harris on down are vomiting out.

Mayor Adams of New York, for one:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/26/us/politics/tru...

Mr. Adams, mayor of America’s largest city and one of the country’s most prominent Black elected officials, was briefing reporters about security plans ahead of Mr. Trump’s rally Sunday at Madison Square Garden when he was asked if he believed the former president was a fascist.

“I have had those terms hurled at me by some political leaders in the city, using terms like Hitler and fascist,” said Mr. Adams, a former police officer. “My answer is no. I know what Hitler has done and I know what a fascist regime looks like.

"I think, as I have called for over and over again, that the level of conversation, I think we can all dial down the temperature."

But you people aren't. You're dialing UP the temperature.

Which makes it more likely that his last ditch effort will be a reprise of “Come to Washington on January 6. It will be wild!”

I’m going to disagree. Jan 6 was a last ditch attempt to get Pence to change his mind and go along with the fake elector plan. The current VP has zero chance of acquiescing to that plan this time. Fake electors are off the table.

Instead the plan is to put a monkey wrench into a much earlier step in the process.

Local election offices in multiple swing states have been filled with MAGA faithful ready and willing to refuse to certify their local results based on some made-up irregularities. Many of these folks gave the idea a test run in the recent primaries. So they’ve had a chance to learn a little bit about what seems to work and what doesn’t.

It’s a bit unclear what exactly will happen when they refuse to certify in the general election. That’s almost certainly a state by state thing. But what it will do is create questions and open the door for chaos. And that chaos is exactly what Trump wants. He thrives in chaos. It gives him the chance to continue to sow fear and doubt among his easily duped followers.

—Peter

But what it will do is create questions and open the door for chaos

And into the chaos he will try again to overthrow the election. Same story, different chapter.

And if he fails… he will not go gently into the dark night.

He has nothing to lose.

Get that straight: he has nothing to lose by going for broke.


If he goes home, he’ll go to jail for crimes he’s already been indicted on, and in one case, already been convicted.

If he goes for broke and tries to force his way back to to the WhiteHouse, he probably thinks he has a chance of pulling it off. And if he fails, he goes to jail for any number of horribly sounding crimes, but I don’t believe we’d ever execute an ex-president.

Jeff Davis did far worse.

But if you really and truly believe that, why aren't you arming up?

Because from my libtard point of view, the side supporting Trump in this potential civil war will be dumb hicks like yourself thinking that their precious ARs and their pickup trucks will be sufficient. The other side of the civil war will be the national guard and the US Army with their considerably larger firepower. I doubt the Navy, Air Force, and Marines will need to dirty their uniforms at all. At most, the Air Force might assist with some logistics.

There’s no need for ordinary citizens to arm themselves unless they plan to be on the losing side of a very short fight.

—Peter

Because from my libtard point of view, the side supporting Trump in this potential civil war will be dumb hicks like yourself thinking that their precious ARs and their pickup trucks will be sufficient. The other side of the civil war will be the national guard and the US Army with their considerably larger firepower. I doubt the Navy, Air Force, and Marines will need to dirty their uniforms at all. At most, the Air Force might assist with some logistics.

There’s no need for ordinary citizens to arm themselves unless they plan to be on the losing side of a very short fight.

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Therefore deep down you know that Trump could not even come close to ending democracy. So why does your side keep screaming Nazi, Hitler, etc? Just a divisive talking point.

Therefore deep down you know that Trump could not even come close to ending democracy. So why does your side keep screaming Nazi, Hitler, etc? Just a divisive talking point

Why does fearless leader say they're enemies of the state? T certainly talks totalitarian. Toss all the journos in jail. And it was your side proudly proclaiming you had all the guns, and my response was, "How many guns can your retreat with?" We find it odd that some of your compatriots actually dream of a civil war.

Therefore deep down you know that Trump could not even come close to ending democracy. So why does your side keep screaming Nazi, Hitler, etc? Just a divisive talking point.

No clue who said that, but clearly there’s a strain of liberals who want Republicans out on the National Mall so somebody can drop a cluster bomb on them.

There’s no need for ordinary citizens to arm themselves unless they plan to be on the losing side of a very short fight.

Therefore deep down you know that Trump could not even come close to ending democracy. So why does your side keep screaming Nazi, Hitler, etc? Just a divisive talking point.

Wrong conclusion. I think the point was that the U.S. military could easily wipe out group of armed or unarmed U.S. citizens without breaking into a sweat.

Therefore, we should be overly cautious of electing a president who thinks it would be a good idea to use the power of government for, say, retribution. Because at some point, regardless of your beliefs, you will be on the receiving end of that retribution.

Therefore, we should be overly cautious of electing a president who thinks it would be a good idea to use the power of government for, say, retribution. Because at some point, regardless of your beliefs, you will be on the receiving end of that retribution.

This.

Because at some point, regardless of your beliefs, you will be on the receiving end of that retribution.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/24/politics/video/tuck...

>>Therefore, we should be overly cautious of electing a president who thinks it would be a good idea to use the power of government for, say, retribution. Because at some point, regardless of your beliefs, you will be on the receiving end of that retribution.<<

This. - Bill

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This? Only if you are sidestepping the question. No doubt Trump is a vile, selfish, ignorant candidate, but is he a real threat to democracy?

On the one hand your side screams Hitler, Nazi, Fascist, end of democracy at every opportunity, but on the other hand you say Trump attempting to assume dictatorial powers is not possible.

Your own words,

Because from my libtard point of view, the side supporting Trump in this potential civil war will be dumb hicks like yourself thinking that their precious ARs and their pickup trucks will be sufficient. The other side of the civil war will be the national guard and the US Army with their considerably larger firepower. I doubt the Navy, Air Force, and Marines will need to dirty their uniforms at all. At most, the Air Force might assist with some logistics.

There’s no need for ordinary citizens to arm themselves unless they plan to be on the losing side of a very short fight.

BTW, you are right, so why switch to a different argument that Trump will exact retribution. That seems tiny when compared to him being Hitler and implementing facism.

No doubt Trump is a vile, selfish, ignorant candidate, but is he a real threat to democracy?

My point is that I don't want to find out, but it looks like I am going to find out. Now you all have proceeded down this path and it seems your premise is, "Awww, he won't do that." But we have people telling us what they had to talk him out of, what he expressed, and Jan 6 might have been a stupid idea, but ... I don't want to find out.

You've heard of FAFO? Don't f&^ck around, we don't want to find out.

I think the point was that the U.S. military could easily wipe out group of armed or unarmed U.S. citizens without breaking into a sweat.

Every time I think, "Board libs understand the country, maybe" one of you shows up and proves me wrong.

Do military members just blindly follow orders?

Therefore, we should be overly cautious of electing a president who thinks it would be a good idea to use the power of government for, say, retribution. Because at some point, regardless of your beliefs, you will be on the receiving end of that retribution.

Second time in 2 days. You people obliterated the irony meter.

And you have no idea what I'm talking about, do you? Just so typical.

Therefore, we should be overly cautious of electing a president who thinks it would be a good idea to use the power of government for, say, retribution.

If it is available to Trump he will use it, retribution seems to be something he believes in. We can count on some of that, don't know how much. I don't think he's even concerned about a legacy, just getting out of his lawsuits, getting pardoned, then he can curry whatever favors he wants. He's virtually home free. He seems to love classified documents, so give him some phony classified documents and set him out to pasture, he us waaaay beyond his expiration date, you need some fresh blood.

Therefore deep down you know that Trump could not even come close to ending democracy.

Trump’s threat to democracy starts with him legitimately winning the election, not with a civil war. He’d then use the trappings of democracy to dispense with democracy.

I’ve explained it before, so I won’t go into the details again. But the end point would be a Russian style democracy, where those in power choose who gets to run in elections, thereby assuring they will remain in power.

—Peter

And you have no idea what I'm talking about, do you? Just so typical

IF that happens, Like the last time, some of the military will break for Trump, and some for the Constitution.

Note: that scenario only occurs if Trump loses, refuses to concede, then calls the military to follow him and his disgraced Q-anon general- Michael Flynn.


It’s doubtful that the majority of the active military, or reserves, or National Guard will take sides with the guy who called them suckers and losers

But it would be messy as hell, no doubt about it….. all because a certain man-child couldn’t accept defeat.

IF that happens, Like the last time, some of the military will break for Trump, and some for the Constitution.


Again. You people have zero idea of what I'm talking about.

There's a clear fascist strain in this country. Only it ain't coming from Trump.

I think the point was that the U.S. military could easily wipe out group of armed or unarmed U.S. citizens without breaking into a sweat.

Correct.

These gun fetish folks, who seem to have a large overlap with the MAGA crowd, can only seem to envision democracy going out in a blaze of gunfire and glorious revolution.

The reality is that if democracy dies in the US, it will happen with strokes of a pen, not at the point of a gun. And those in favor of the loss of democratic freedoms will cheer on that loss, thinking that they will benefit. Only when it is too late will they realize what they have done.

—Peter

And you have no idea what I'm talking about, do you?

The day I have some idea of what you are talking about is the day someone needs to drag me over to Kristi Noem’s place and have her show me the gravel pit.

—Peter

The day I have some idea of what you are talking about is the day someone needs to drag me over to Kristi Noem’s place and have her show me the gravel pit.

—Peter

To each his own.

I'd rather be put before Senator Blackburn or Prime Minister Meloni and told that I've been a bad boy.

BTW, you are right, so why switch to a different argument that Trump will exact retribution. That seems tiny when compared to him being Hitler and implementing facism.

You’re not thinking clearly.

One of the realities of Fascism is exacting retribution from their enemies, real and perceived. You know, like labeling people as vermin, separating children from their parents, etc.

You should read up on the history of fascists. Especially if your planning on voting for one.

You people have zero idea of what I'm talking about.

Not surprising because neither do you.

Not surprising because neither do you.

Lulzies.
You can't even make an attempt anymore.

That's pathetic, homie. Be better.

Russian style democracy,

Oligarchy/kleptocarcy/kakistocracy.

Oligarchy/kleptocarcy/kakistocracy.

I'd call our version an idiocracy - putting the idiots in charge.

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