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Author: Umm 🐝🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Question on Harris
Date: 07/23/2024 8:51 PM
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Why are the Republicans looking to have Biden pushed out of office? Some are saying he should resign; others are looking at the 24th Amendment. Why are they doing this? It seems like a dumb strategy. All it would do is elevate Harris to be President and her soon to be picked running mate as the VP. Why do the GOP want to give Harris the bully pulpit advantages of the Presidency to campaign from? It would allow her to go on TV will the scroll now officially calling her President Harris. She would get to give news conferences were she would be called Madam President.

Why does the GOP want to give voters the chance to see her in that role?

The only upside would be if President Biden resigned and then a month later there was a horrible terrorist attack or such that they could then hope to pin on her, but even that is doubtful because everyday Americans do not think like that (George Bush's ratings skyrocketed after 9/11).
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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Question on Harris
Date: 07/23/2024 9:09 PM
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Umm: Why does the GOP want to give voters the chance to see her in that role?

Well, for starters 1.) they can then hang the border crisis officially around her neck (and Gaza and any other issues they choose); 2.) they're hoping she'll make a campaign ending blunder as president and self-destruct; 3.) she would be way too busy in her new role as president to be out on the campaign trail much at all; and 4.) it's likely the media would put every move she makes under a hyper-critical microscope and try to pick her to pieces.
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Author: albaby1 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Question on Harris
Date: 07/23/2024 10:31 PM
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Why are the Republicans looking to have Biden pushed out of office? Some are saying he should resign; others are looking at the 24th Amendment. Why are they doing this? It seems like a dumb strategy.

I suspect it has nothing to do with Harris. Republicans are certainly aware that Biden's not going to step down. And they don't want Harris to become President.

It's about tying Democrats to Biden. Biden has terrible polling numbers and is viewed unfavorably by a majority of voters. GOP candidates were planning to tie Biden around the neck of every Democratic candidate in a contested race, and force them to defend their party's choice of nominee. They wanted those candidates to have to defend their party's choice of Biden as the nominee, to vouch for his fitness for office, to argue that he's a good choice to be President for the next four years. Because that makes the candidates look bad - you never really want to be supporting something that most voters don't like. [N.B. - the Democrats will be doing the same with Trump].

But Biden's no longer the candidate. Downballot Democrats don't have to go out and make any claims about Biden. They don't have to vouch for him any more. That leaves Republicans with one less arrow to fire at Democratic candidates - and without a shield when they're asked about their support for an elderly convict.

So, they argue that Biden should step down, so that Democrats have to defend and support Biden. It won't be as good for Republicans as if Biden were the nominee - yet another aspect of their campaign strategy wrecked by his selfless decision to withdraw. But better than nothing.
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Author: Neuromancer   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Question on Harris
Date: 07/24/2024 12:16 PM
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"Why are they doing this? It seems like a dumb strategy"

Well, they ARE Republicans...
Not the sharpest spoons in the drawer.
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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Question on Harris
Date: 07/24/2024 12:42 PM
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albaby1: So, they argue that Biden should step down, so that Democrats have to defend and support Biden.

Also, it's possible that republicans want to establish that Harris was hiding Biden's diminishing mental acuity and putting the nation's security at risk. In committee today, republicans badgered Chris Wray trying to get him to admit president Biden was incapable of remaining president. Wray said, no, he hadn't noticed any changes in the president's attentiveness or comprehension skills and that, yes, he had briefed the president outside of the 10 AM and 4 PM time window republicans claimed were Biden's limited work hours.

The republicans were sad.
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Author: ptheland   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Question on Harris
Date: 07/24/2024 1:15 PM
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Wray said, no, he hadn't noticed any changes in the president's attentiveness or comprehension skills and that, yes, he had briefed the president outside of the 10 AM and 4 PM time window republicans claimed were Biden's limited work hours.

Once again highlighting the difference between running for office and doing the actual job of an office holder.

—Peter
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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Question on Harris
Date: 07/24/2024 5:36 PM
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Well, they ARE Republicans...
Not the sharpest spoons in the drawer.


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Those spoons may identify as a knife but they are not as sharp as the real thing. Some libs would have us cut our steaks with a self deluded spoon anyway.
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Author: sano 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Question on Harris
Date: 07/24/2024 6:53 PM
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Possibles

1. If she assumes the Presidency now she will have less time to campaign.

2. Hedging against a loss.
IF Harris assumes the office now, serves 7 months as POTUS, would that prevent her from serving 2 full terms in addition to the 7 months?
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Author: ptheland   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Question on Harris
Date: 07/24/2024 7:27 PM
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IF Harris assumes the office now, serves 7 months as POTUS, would that prevent her from serving 2 full terms in addition to the 7 months?

My recollection is that it needs to be at least two years to count as a term. So the answer would be No.

This last came up with LBJ, having served a bit over a year after the JFK assassination, then a full term after that. He could have run for another term, but famously chose not to.

--Peter
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