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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: If you're a democrat, you're likely nuts
Date: 06/03/2025 1:47 PM
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Hey, don't shoot the messenger. This is direct from Nate Silver:

https://x.com/Jesus197538/status/19296793550068329...

Nate Silver’s latest blog post notes that conservatives are up 31 points among those with self-described excellent mental health, and down 26 among those with poor mental health.

Democrats have turned themselves into the party of the neurotic, the unstable, and the miserable.

If you’re happy and well-adjusted, vote Republican.


From Silver's blog post:

People with poor mental health:
liberal: 45%
Conservative: 19%

People with good mental health:
liberal: 20%
Conservative: 51%

Says it all.
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Author: jerryab   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: If you're a democrat, you're likely nuts
Date: 06/03/2025 2:01 PM
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conservatives are up 31 points among those with self-described excellent mental health

84% of conservatives still believe US tariffs are paid by other countries....
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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: If you're a democrat, you're likely nuts
Date: 06/03/2025 2:27 PM
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Dope1: Nate Silver’s latest blog post notes that conservatives are up 31 points among those with self-described ... People with poor mental health: liberal: 45%

Seeing self-described should be your first clue that you're dealing with bullshit data.

And seriously, how stupid do you have to be to actually believe that 45% of liberals describe their mental health as "poor"?

Well, jaw-droppingly stupid.

Congratulations, you are among those Mad King Donald loves, as in, "I love the poorly educated."
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Author: wzambon 🐝🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: If you're a democrat, you're likely nuts
Date: 06/03/2025 2:55 PM
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Congratulations, you are among those Mad King Donald loves, as in, "I love the poorly educated."

Dope is very good at picking the data points he’s willing to call “true”.
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Author: Banksy 🐝🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: If you're a democrat, you're likely nuts
Date: 06/03/2025 3:51 PM
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"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." ~Jiddu Krishnamurti
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: If you're a democrat, you're likely nuts
Date: 06/03/2025 5:18 PM
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Dope is very good at picking the data points he’s willing to call “true”.

Lulz at u and whoever else that was.
As I said...don't shoot the messenger. Nate Silver may be late with this (the rest of us knew this data years ago)...

...but he ain't wrong.
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: If you're a democrat, you're likely nuts
Date: 06/03/2025 5:51 PM
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...self-described excellent mental health


LMAO...So Dopey of you to quote something so stupid.
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Author: AlphaWolf   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: If you're a democrat, you're likely nuts
Date: 06/03/2025 8:17 PM
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Nate Silver may be late with this (the rest of us knew this data years ago)...

...but he ain't wrong.


The day before the 2024 Election, Nate Silver’s model showed Harris getting 271 electoral votes and Trump getting 267 electoral votes. The actual numbers were Trump 312 electoral votes and Harris with 226.

He was wrong.
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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: If you're a democrat, you're likely nuts
Date: 06/03/2025 8:47 PM
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Dope1: Lulz at u and whoever else that was.
As I said...don't shoot the messenger. Nate Silver may be late with this (the rest of us knew this data years ago)...

...but he ain't wrong.


Sure he's wrong if he's relying on self-described data.

If anyone can answer a survey by claiming to be a liberal, what's to prevent conservatives from self-identifying as liberals and providing answers that make liberals look bad?

Or do you seriously believe that 45% of liberals say their mental health is "poor"?

You'd have to be off your rocker to believe that shit.

No wonder Nate Silver's become a such laughing stock.
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: If you're a democrat, you're likely nuts
Date: 06/04/2025 12:43 AM
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This study screened ~2500 people for symptoms vs self reporting, and found little difference due to party. But if we agree, you're happier, but you die earlier and commit more suicide. Go figure.

A new study

published in September (2024) in the Journal of Public Health Management and Practice sheds light on the mental health crisis gripping millions of Americans, and the findings suggest that depression is a bipartisan issue that affects people across party lines. According to the study, there is, however, a striking divide on whether people seek mental health treatment, with Republicans less likely to have accessed care despite reporting similar rates of depression compared to Democrats and Independents.

This research, led by Catherine Ettman, PhD, and C. Ross Hatton, PhD, MPA, of the Department of Health Policy and Management in collaboration with NORC at the University of Chicago, comes at an urgent moment as the U.S. grapples with the ongoing mental health impact of the COVID-19 pandemic. According to the study, more than 22.5 million adults are estimated to have had a depressive episode in 2022, and depression has now also emerged as one of the costliest conditions for the U.S. economy, topping over $326 billion annually. As depression gains national attention, discourse, and policy conversations, the study underscores the need for a bipartisan approach to addressing gaps in mental health care access.

The study, which included a survey of 2,479 U.S. adults this past spring, explored two main questions: whether depression rates vary across political party lines, and whether people with depressive symptoms were accessing mental health care.

Contrary to previous studies that found mental health outcomes may be worse for Democrats and Independents compared to Republicans, this study finds that depressive symptoms are virtually indistinguishable across party lines. The data showed 25.2% of Democrats screened positive for depression, compared with 23% of Independents and 20.5% of Republicans. These differences were not statistically significant, meaning that depression does not appear to discriminate by political belief.
https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2024/new-study-shows-...
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Author: Iampops 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: If you're a democrat, you're likely nuts
Date: 06/04/2025 7:12 AM
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Speaking of mental illness….

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/trump-...

Trump is as crazy as dope.
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Author: Banksy 🐝🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: If you're a democrat, you're likely nuts
Date: 06/04/2025 8:18 AM
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Interesting, the "sane" folks commit suicide far more often than the "nuts"...

Studies comparing suicide rates between red and blue states consistently find that red states (MAGA) have much higher suicide rates.

Suicide rates are higher in red states compared to blue states. This pattern is consistent across recent years and is supported by both state and county-level data.
Contributing Factors:
Higher rates of gun ownership in red states, which is strongly linked to increased suicide risk.
Reduced access to mental health services and a weaker social safety net, which are more prevalent in states with Republican policy orientations.
Geographic Patterns: The "suicide belt" a region with some of the highest suicide rates in the country—runs through several rural, predominantly MAGA states.

"Overall, our finding that Democratic counties have experienced steeper declines in mortality than Republican counties over the past two decades builds upon previous evidence
suggesting that more liberal policies, laws, and regulations may be associated with better health outcomes."

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/suicide-...

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2912290/

https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation?pap...

https://bmjgroup.com/widening-gap-in-death-rates-b...
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Author: UpNorthJoe 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: If you're a democrat, you're likely nuts
Date: 06/04/2025 8:56 AM
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"Trump is as crazy as dope."

Let me do my impersonation of MAGA research:

I know a guy who knows a guy, who knows a guy who knows a guy, who knows a guy, who knows a guy
that says "it's all Biden's fault".
And I know a guy who knows a guy, who knows a guy who knows a guy, who knows a guy who knows a guy, that says " waste, fraud, and abuse" is the answer to everything.

Yeah, anything MAGA trots out is likely 0.00000000000000000000% true.

I have them all on ignore. Are their heads exploding from the comments Musk made
about Trump's Big Ugly Bill ? The cognitive dissonance bouncing around in their heads
must struggling mightily for Trump to make up some bullshit that will make it all
good.
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Author: jerryab   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: If you're a democrat, you're likely nuts
Date: 06/04/2025 10:08 AM
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The cognitive dissonance bouncing around in their heads


0.0000000000000000000% of the Magats understand words longer than 2-4 letters. So your entire sentence was ignored by them as a result.
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