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A summary:
https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-statemen...
1. Devon Archer testified that the value of adding Hunter Biden to Burisma's board was 'the brand' and confirmed that then-Vice President Joe Biden was 'the brand.'
Archer admitted that 'Burisma would have gone out of business if 'the brand' had not been attached to it.'
2. He believed that Hunter Biden being on the board and the Biden brand contributed to Burisma's longevity. People would have been intimidated to mess with Burisma legally because of the Biden brand.
3. In December 2015, Mykola Zlochevsky, the owner of Burisma, and Vadym Pozharski, an executive of Burisma, placed constant pressure on Hunter Biden to get help from D.C. regarding the Ukrainian prosecutor, Viktor Shokin. Shokin was investigating Burisma for corruption. Hunter Biden, along with Zlochevsky and Pozharski, 'called D.C.' to discuss the matter. Biden, Zlochevsky, and Pozharski stepped away to make the call. This raises concerns that Hunter Biden was in violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act.
4. Devon Archer testified that Hunter Biden put then-Vice President Joe Biden on the speakerphone during business meetings over 20 times. Archer testified that Joe Biden was put on the phone to sell 'the brand.' These phone calls include a dinner in Paris with a French energy company and in China with Jonathan Li, the CEO of BHR.
5. Archer acknowledged that then-Vice President Biden had coffee with Jonathan Li, the CEO of BHR, in Beijing. Then-Vice President Biden even wrote a letter of recommendation for college for Li's daughter.
6. Archer confirmed Joe Biden was referred to as 'my guy' by Hunter Biden.
7. In spring of 2014, then-Vice President Biden attended a business dinner with his son, Hunter, and his associates at Café Milano in Washington, D.C. Elena Baturina, a Russian oligarch who is the widow of the former mayor of Moscow, attended the dinner. Notably, the Biden Administration's public sanctions list for Russian oligarchs does not contain Baturina.So.
We know that Biden bragged about getting Shokin fired in the famous exchange about "the $1 billion". The real motivation for that was confirmed by Archer; Joe Biden was evidently acting as a foreign agent
while serving as Vice President.
We know Joe was lying when he said he never discussed business with his son. His presence on the calls shows that he was definitely involved even if they were just talking about their favorite postage stamps.
Joe Biden was also evidently not above doing minor favors like the college recommendation letter. Does anyone really think that VP's have all the time in the world to write letters of rec for some rando's daughter?
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Dope1: 1. Devon Archer testified...
Gee, not one single quote from the closed door meeting with Devon Archer in the entire statement.
How odd.
Do you guys ever get dizzy after being spun around so violently?
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How odd.
LOL. It's a summary.
And let's not forget how your party conducted an entire impeachment based on secret evidence in a demcorat Star Chamber.
Sit down.
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>>Dope1: 1. Devon Archer testified...<<
Gee, not one single quote from the closed door meeting with Devon Archer in the entire statement. - co
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So CO, who exactly were you quoting when you posted this in post #4535
Devon Archer testified "that he never heard of President Biden discussing business with his son or his son's associates, or doing anything wrong."
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Dope
So.
We know that Biden bragged about getting Shokin fired in the famous exchange about "the $1 billion". The real motivation for that was confirmed by Archer; Joe Biden was evidently acting as a foreign agent while serving as Vice Presidentbut Obama administration officials, European diplomats, and anti-corruption advocates in Ukraine say Shokin was removed because he failed to pursue Ukrainian politicians for corruption, and that they intervened before Biden did.[3][4][5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_ShokinMe: You have to ignore that Biden was acting well within his VP duties and that the President and other officials stated they intervened before Biden did, and Biden intervened at the Government's request to come to your absurd conclusion(s).
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bighairymike: >>Dope1: 1. Devon Archer testified...<<
Gee, not one single quote from the closed door meeting with Devon Archer in the entire statement. - co
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CNN provided Devon Archer quotes. What Dope1 provided was the summary of the behind doors committee meeting by republicans which contained zero quotes to support their claims.
Wouldn't you think if they had quotable evidence they would have, well, quoted that evidence?
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CNN provided Devon Archer quotes. What Dope1 provided was the summary of the behind doors committee meeting by republicans which contained zero quotes to support their claims.
Wouldn't you think if they had quotable evidence they would have, well, quoted that evidence?
Why prejudice the upcoming criminal referral and trial?
Oops. Maybe that was cnn's actual goal, lol.
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but Obama administration officials, European diplomats, and anti-corruption advocates in Ukraine say Shokin was removed because he failed to pursue Ukrainian politicians for corruption, and that they intervened before Biden did
That's nice that they said that.
You have to ignore that Biden was acting well within his VP duties and that the President and other officials stated they intervened before Biden did, and Biden intervened at the Government's request to come to your absurd conclusion(s).
And you have to ignore the clear conflict of interest at work here as well as the obvious quid pro quo in terms of Hunter's Burisma dealings and the money paid to the family.
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CNN provided Devon Archer quotes - co
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So called quotes were from two unnamed sources.
BTW, unnamed sources say that the Biden network of twenty shell companies took in as much as $50M, then shuffled the funds around between them before finally transferring to various Biden family members. Must be true, because... "sources"
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And you have to ignore the clear conflict of interest at work here as well as the obvious quid pro quo in terms of Hunter's Burisma dealings and the money paid to the family.
Not ignoring anything, but you have TO PROVE that something went on that included Biden and YOU CAN'T. And the reason why you can't is BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. So you infer and imply with innuendo - nothing more than gossip at this point - mongering on your part.
In the meantime real indictments have come out on Fearless Leader. Sloooowwwlllyyy it turns, inch by inch, step by step...
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BMHSo called quotes were from two unnamed sources.
Standard good journalism - verify with another reputable source that you keep secret. Whereas - your info is like Eastman who is getting disbarred for fabrication.
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And you have to ignore the clear conflict of interest at work here as well as the obvious quid pro quo in terms of Hunter's Burisma dealings and the money paid to the family.
So, how do you feel about the blatant corruption and criminality of the Trump mob?
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Not ignoring anything, but you have TO PROVE that something went on that included Biden and YOU CAN'T. And the reason why you can't is BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN
Uh, huh. Ignore reality all you like; doesn't matter to me in the slightest. There are bank records, over a hundred suspicious transactions flagged, tens of millions of dollars and over a dozen shell companies. The kind one designs to shelter and/or launder money.
If the last name of the person doing this were named Bush or Trump you'd be ready to convene a firing squad. So in the meantime, I'm going to enjoy the slow, Chinese Water-Torture like
drip
drip
drip
...of new information coming out about the Biden Crime family.
No. of Recommendations: 4
Wow, if Hunter Biden allegedly having a conflict of interest in his business dealings has you folks feigning outrage,
wait until you hear about the guy who rapes Women,
steals from children's cancer charities,
tries to overthrow his own government,
steals classified war plans and hides them in the bathroom of his tacky rat-infested golf motel.
"Trump's team is the Corleones with no experience." Chris Christie
It's almost like you Trumpers are in a Cult...
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Dope1: There are bank records, over a hundred suspicious transactions flagged...
Perhaps you don't fully understand that the filing of suspicious activity reports against elected officials is common. In fact, during the Trump administration, Deutsche Bank's anti-money laundering division recommended filing suspicious activity reports on transactions conducted by Trump companies, including the Trump Foundation, and firms owned by his son-law Jared Kushner. Any transaction over $5,000 can trigger a suspicious activity report.
I'd wager that most of us here have had financial transactions of over $5,000.
In short, they're meaningless.
Or, at least they never bothered republicans when they were filed for Trump or Kushner family financial activities left and right.
Dope1: ...and over a dozen shell companies...
A dozen? Wow!! The Trump Organization has over 500. You better get him an adjoining cell.
Dope1: If the last name of the person doing this were named Bush or Trump you'd be ready to convene a firing squad.
Well, no: see above.
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Uh, huh. Ignore reality all you like; doesn't matter to me in the slightest. There are bank records, over a hundred suspicious transactions flagged, tens of millions of dollars and over a dozen shell companies. The kind one designs to shelter and/or launder money.Snip
Today Hunter Biden's best friend and business associate, Devon Archer, testified that Joe Biden met with Russia's Yelena Baturina who later invested into $40 million into Hunter Biden's real estate ventures. And she also paid Hunter Biden $3.5 million in consulting fees.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/07/huge-devo...The left will dismiss this, the article is from a right leaning blog.
Anyhow the left will tell us they were just discussing the weather.
'To quote: ' So it's blatantly obvious Joe and Hunter are so guilty of so many crimes I can't keep count. Now, just what do we think will happen to them? My vote - nothing.''
But of course if this was Trump....the double standard would apply.
Indictment number....I can't count that high, ;)
You can see the double standard being applied from the left right here. What a joke.
Outta of popcorn, must go shopping.
No. of Recommendations: 2
Perhaps you don't fully understand that the filing of suspicious activity reports against elected officials is common.
Oh? When was Hunter Biden elected?
Or are you referring to Joe? Are you admitting to something you really don't want to be admitting? That's the problem with the kind of drive-by accusations the media often makes...too many times you guys hit the wrong targets...
Drip.
Drip.
Drip.
Drip.
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https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/168612705...Jonathan Turley:
Law Professor Jonathan Turley is STUNNED by the Biden family influence peddling scheme following the Devon Archer testimony:
"What we now know, quite frankly, is that the President has been lying...I think this is shaping up to be one of the greatest corruption scandals in the history of Washington, and that is saying a lot."
No. of Recommendations: 5
LurkerMom:
Today Hunter Biden's best friend and business associate, Devon Archer, testified that Joe Biden met with Russia's Yelena Baturina who later invested into $40 million into Hunter Biden's real estate ventures. And she also paid Hunter Biden $3.5 million in consulting fees.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/07/huge-devo...
The left will dismiss this, the article is from a right leaning blog.Umm, $40 million? The senate investigation said $3.4 million. The New York Post said $100 million.
In any event, the partners agreed to dissolve Rosemont Seneca Thornton before the Baturina wire transfer took place. Funny, though, Devon Archer -- you know, the crook going to prison for fraud -- decided to keep the business alive for his own real estate business, Rosemont Realty, which raised money from Eastern European and Central Asian investors.
Archer just didn't bother to tell Hunter Biden.
The Washington Post debunked this back in 2020 when Trump first tried to make it an issue, mentioning it 42 times in the final weeks of the campaign.
Trump even called on Putin to reveal before election day exactly what he knew about it.
And no, the Gateway Pundit is not a "right leaning blog," it is
Questionable based on extreme right-wing bias, promotion of conspiracies, and numerous instances of publishing false (fake) news." https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-gateway-pundit/I have to ask you guys, do your noses hurt from being led around by them all the time?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08...
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have to ask you guys, do your noses hurt from being led around by them all the time?
Nah, bruh. THIS is what being led around by the nose looks like:
https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/16863473372...Rep.
@danielsgoldman
: "Let's put this in context: Beau Biden got very sick in 2015. He died in 2015. It was right in the middle when Devon Archer had his business dealings with Hunter Biden. At that point Joe Biden and Hunter Biden began to speak every day because they were devastated by Beau's death."How does it feel? Being lied to, gaslighted, and told what to think all the while being unable to process complex thought? I'm curious. The people who write your NPC code really don't think much of you.
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Standard good journalism - verify with another reputable source that you keep secret. Whereas - your info is like Eastman who is getting disbarred for fabrication. - Lapsody
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Standard Crossfire Hurricane Tactic - leak the same fabrication to two different news organizations and let them confirm the falsehood with each other.
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bighairymike: Standard Crossfire Hurricane Tactic - leak the same fabrication to two different news organizations and let them confirm the falsehood with each other.
Umm, you don't seem to have thought this through.
Or do you not realize that there were republicans in that meeting who would immediately refute any false claims in these multiple news articles?
If these quotes were false, why wouldn't the republicans say so?
More to the point, why not just release the transcript and we'll all see exactly what was said by Archer? What are republicans hiding?
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Dope1: "Let's put this in context: Beau Biden got very sick in 2015. He died in 2015. It was right in the middle when Devon Archer had his business dealings with Hunter Biden. At that point Joe Biden and Hunter Biden began to speak every day because they were devastated by Beau's death.">
So grief is unreal, huh?
And a father would never get on the phone with his only living son?
Huh.
After my stepfather died, I spoke on the phone with my mother every single day. Even after she had accepted his death, I continued to speak with her by phone every day for the rest of her life. Every day.
But I guess that makes me a gaslighter.
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More to the point, why not just release the transcript and we'll all see exactly what was said by Archer? What are republicans hiding? - CO
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I think part of the process is the transcript fist has to go to DOJ for redaction of anything that might reveal a source or embarrass a democrat.
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After my stepfather died, I spoke on the phone with my mother every single day. Even after she had accepted his death, I continued to speak with her by phone every day for the rest of her life. Every day. - CO
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You are a good son. Did you ever call her while you were in the middle of a business meeting?
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I think part of the process is the transcript fist has to go to DOJ for redaction of anything that might reveal a source or embarrass a democrat.
That plus it'll be bundled with the eventual criminal referral.
