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Author: Steve203 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Vance will take the blame, again
Date: 04/16/26 11:28 PM
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Trump denies involvement in Orbán’s failed re-election bid, despite his involvement

U.S. President Donald Trump told ABC News ​reporter Jonathan Karl on Tuesday ‌he was not concerned about Viktor Orbán’s loss in Hungary, and that he likes incoming ​Prime Minister Peter Magyar. […]

Trump told the ​reporter he did not know if it would have made a difference if he had gone ​to Hungary instead of Vice President ​JD Vance to campaign for Orban. ‘He was behind ‌substantially,’ ⁠Trump said. ‘I wasn’t that involved in this one.’


https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/t...

The article details the extent of God on Earth Trump's support for Orban.

Typical "JC"

Steve
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Author: AlphaWolf 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Vance will take the blame, again
Date: 04/17/26 7:29 AM
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Trump said. ‘I wasn’t that involved in this one.’

Nothing new here. The issue is that Trump actually believes the innumerable (and yes, often contradictory) lies that he tells.

This makes him a great salesman but a horribly destructive leader. Throw in his accelerating loss of cognitive abilities and increasing dementia, and you see the emperor’s new clothes.

Trump’s actions have weakened the United States and strengthened our adversaries, and the Republican Party continues to feed his delusion like the sycophant cult they have become.

ETTD.
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Author: weatherman 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Vance will take the blame, again
Date: 04/19/26 10:19 AM
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great followup from theAtlantic :

- nothing original in gop's MAGA playbook, many aspects (proj2025,....) all copied from orban.
(key ingredient was the utter simplicity of whatever populist topics polled best, as digging deep into policy was completely superfluous)

- orban's strength grew came AFTER his first loss and considerably into his rightwing takeover of media, and lasted more than a decade further
(analagously, our current timepoint with trump, CNN being the another major piece at risk)

- orban's credibility collapse was mainly driven by his media promoting an pending invasion of hungary by a cocaine-snorting zelensky
(so there is a idiot threshold, it just hasnt been found yet in america)

- orban's control of the judiciary and media meant he was well prepared to challenge a loss...but the landslide was so overwhelming he is saving resources for another comeback.
(nothing seems to prevent this other than an interim bolsonaro type conviction...but it would have to be done by his own judges who will be weighing the likelihood of orban winning again)

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President Trump:
before : "And he’s done a fantastic job, is a very powerful man within his country, but he’s also beloved. They love Viktor..."
after : barely know him \ i would have won \ vance sucks
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Author: EchotaBaaa   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Vance will take the blame, again
Date: 04/19/26 10:36 AM
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Good!

Vance is 5x more dangerous than Trump in that Trump----just manipulated the idiots to get their votes.

Vance --- is actual True Believer Taliban in some ways.

And - he's a darling of the Thiel types.

And unlike Trump- Vance is focused.


A Vance Presidency makes Trump look like little bunny foo-foo.
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Author: SuisseBear   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Vance will take the blame, again
Date: 04/19/26 11:28 AM
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President Trump:
before : "And he’s done a fantastic job, is a very powerful man within his country, but he’s also beloved. They love Viktor..."
not to mention: "Trump’s pledge to use the “full economic might” of the U.S. to help the Hungarian economy comes as Orban trails in the polls going into Sunday’s election."

after : barely know him \ i would have won \ vance sucks


In between them, this cover seems derserved:
https://www.private-eye.co.uk/pictures/covers/full...
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