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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Biden family update, just in case
Date: 12/04/2023 6:02 PM
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Msnbc doesn’t report the story tonight. I know, I know, the usual suspects won’t like the source. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hunter-biden-s...
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Date: 12/04/2023 6:33 PM
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hclasvegas: Msnbc doesn’t report the story tonight.

Why would any legit news organization report the story? If you click through the links on your linked article, you find that Joe Biden's sister-in-law Sara Biden cut a check to Joe for $40,000. The memo line of the check said, "loan repayment." Where's the crime?

But I do remain stunned that Brad Pitt writes for Zero Hedge under his Fight Club alias.
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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If you click through the links on your linked article, you find that Joe Biden's sister-in-law Sara Biden cut a check to Joe for $40,000. The memo line of the check said, "loan repayment." Where's the crime?

follow the money

https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-reveals-...


“Then, Hudson West III sent $400,000 to an entity owned and controlled by Hunter Biden.”

10% of $400,000 = $40,000 umm, who was it again that always got his 10% cut?
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Another source, https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-releases...
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Date: 12/04/2023 7:18 PM
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Owasco P.C. made direct payments to Joe Biden, which should put the last of the lies to bed.

Drip.
Drip.
Driiiiiipppppppp....
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Date: 12/04/2023 7:18 PM
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"" Why would any legit news organization report the story? If you click through the links on your linked article, you find that Joe Biden's sister-in-law Sara Biden cut a check to Joe for $40,000. The memo line of the check said, "loan repayment." Where's the crime?"" Thanks for sharing your legal and financial expertise. Have you ever been an insider? Have you ever been regulated by the SEC, NASD, your state division of securities etc? Look up the word, nominee. Do you expect a check to say, your ten percent of the payoff ? Was Al Capone that ignorant? Come on man, do I have to hold your hand ? Have you ever seen a check that discloses illegal behavior? Unreal.
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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Date: 12/04/2023 7:30 PM
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Dope1: Owasco P.C. made direct payments to Joe Biden, which should put the last of the lies to bed.

You're lying. Even Comer knows he's making sh!t up.

James Comer quoted: "We previously exposed a $200,000 payment James made to his brother Joe that came from funds provided by a now bankrupt health care company called Americore. Like the payment to Joe from Americore funds, it’s certainly plausible that this payment where James and Sara used funds from China was indeed a loan repayment to Joe,” Comer says in his latest X video.

"But even if this $40,000 check was a loan repayment from James Biden, it still shows how Joe benefited from his family cashing in on his name -- with money from China no less. Without his family peddling his name and his son threatening a CEFC associate with consequences that he said Joe Biden knew about, James wouldn’t have had the money to write the $40,000 check to his brother Joe.


Complete bullsh!t, as usual. If cashing in on the family name was a crime, every Trump spawn and in-laws would be in prison.

But you know what? It's not a crime.

https://dailycaller.com/2023/11/01/comer-bank-reco...
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Date: 12/04/2023 7:32 PM
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"" nom·i·nee
[ˌnäməˈnē]
NOUN
a person who is proposed or formally entered as a candidate for an office or as the recipient of a grant or award:
"an Oscar nominee" · "the party's presidential nominee"
SIMILAR:
applicant
job-seeker
contender
contestant
aspirant

a person or company whose name is given as having title to a stock, real estate, etc., but who is not the actual owner:
"an offshore nominee company" Some of us have been around the game for over 50 years. Some of us know first hand, the power and reach the FBI has, real world 101. I'll give you a hint. Banks, brokers, financial intermediaries, casinos, transfer agents, etc do not tell the FBI we are very busy, come back next year. Comprende amigo ?
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Date: 12/04/2023 7:34 PM
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hclasvegas: Have you ever seen a check that discloses illegal behavior? Unreal.

Well, you're so brilliant you'll be easily able to explain the difference between this loan repayment and the James Comer $200,000 loan repayment to his own brother. Thanks.
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Biden family update, just in case
Date: 12/04/2023 7:43 PM
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common, I'm here for you, "" Complete bullsh!t, as usual. If cashing in on the family name was a crime, every Trump spawn and in-laws would be in prison.

But you know what? It's not a crime."" You know why we know about the Saudi investment in Jareds fund ? Jared DISCLOSED it! You know how we know that investment will generate 24 million a YEAR in fees ? Jared DISCLOSED it. It STINKS, I don't like it, I don't want trump to run again, BUT, obviously, since he DISCLOSED it, team Biden would be all over him like two coats of paint, IF, IF, this was illegal. Do you think Jared files his taxes annually? Do you think Jared has failed to declare millions of income ? Do you understand the tax consequences of, LOANS? Is there a chance, just a chance, you might be in way over your head ? Thanks man. Loans, sure, can't wait to see the paperwork.
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Date: 12/04/2023 7:47 PM
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"" Well, you're so brilliant you'll be easily able to explain the difference between this loan repayment and the James Comer $200,000 loan repayment to his own brother. Thanks."" Two parties of self dealing grifters, what's the news? Fill us in, what are the circumstances of the Comer family loans ? IF justified, lock them up too, who cares ? Breaking news, both parties suck, and every cycle we get to vote for who we think sucks less, what a country.
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Date: 12/04/2023 7:54 PM
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common, thanks bud, we agree, Comer should provide FULL transparency and disclosure with respect to these family transactions. IF he refuses the Dems should bury him, lets flush the toilet, one grifter at a time! https://www.newsweek.com/james-comer-family-loans-...
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Date: 12/04/2023 9:22 PM
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Wasn't Comer going to show us Biden got $5 million dollars?
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Subject: Re: Biden family update, just in case
Date: 12/04/2023 9:45 PM
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Lapsody: Wasn't Comer going to show us Biden got $5 million dollars?

That was a year ago. Today he's whittled the 'crime' down to $4,140 in truck payments for his son.

https://www.mediaite.com/news/comers-latest-biden-...
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Date: 12/04/2023 10:12 PM
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Common, I thought you were a fair and balanced kind of guy? https://www.allsides.com/news-source/mediaite-bias
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Date: 12/04/2023 10:27 PM
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hclasvegas: Common, I thought you were a fair and balanced kind of guy? https://www.allsides.com/news-source/mediaite-bias

I grabbed the first link returned on Google. Here's the headline and subhead from the Washington Post: "Comer mischaracterizes Hunter Biden car payment reimbursement to his dad

The payments Hunter Biden made to his father came two years after the elder Biden had left the vice presidency

Still bullsh!t.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/12/04...
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Biden family update, just in case
Date: 12/04/2023 10:56 PM
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with money from China no less.

And those are the key word.
The money originated from China, passed threw a few hands and eventually
sweet innocent Joe got his laundered ten percent=$40,000....cashing in on the Family name.
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Date: 12/04/2023 11:31 PM
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None of this really show anything. I know you thin it does. Remember how y'all got titillated regularly about Hillary's emails? Nothing ever came of that did it. This is the same thing. Drip, drip, drip... and it will ultimately be....nothing.

They know they can keep you on edge, thrilled, waiting for the next revelation. It doesn't seem to matter.

In the mean time it looks like only one trial may be done in time for the election. I'm disappointed at how slow the judicial machinery works.
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Date: 12/05/2023 6:59 AM
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It occurred to me that many of you might not be Americans or might not know the regs. “”If a borrower has debt forgiven, it is treated as if the borrower earned additional income in the previous tax year equal to the amount of forgiven debt.”” The Comer and Biden families can clear this up in a few days. Disclose the loan agreements, who made the, loans? Were foreign countries or their citizens making, loans, to American politicians and business people ? What were the terms of the loans? What were the interest rates charged, the payment terms, the date the , loans, were due? Btw, I’m sure you all know Chris Heinz, John Kerry’s step son, was at one time a good friend and business partner of Hunter and his group. Several years ago, Chris walked away from serious, easy money, I wonder why ? Let’s see if team Biden can lawyer its way out of this , sloppy business, to be kind. Have a great day all and I’m available if anyone wants to lend me, 5 million or so 💕💕
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Date: 12/05/2023 9:18 AM
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hclasvegas: If a borrower has debt forgiven, it is treated as if the borrower earned additional income in the previous tax year equal to the amount of forgiven debt.

That's justice Clarence Thomas, not Comer or Biden. ASAIK, neither Comer or Biden forgave loans.


hclasvegas: Btw, I’m sure you all know Chris Heinz...

Sure, an heir to the multi-billion dollar family food company of the same name who had no interest in becoming connected in any way with Burisma.

We've gone over this many times and have all concluded that Hunter is a recovering drug addict, has made many poor decisions in life, did not handle the losses of his mother, sister, and brother well, and has caused his father a lifetime of pain. But rather than abandon him or reject him, Joe Biden has decided that despite the harm it does to him personally and politically, he will continue to love his son and help him in his recovery.

Finally, Comer has not revealed one fact that implicates Joe Biden in any wrongdoing.
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Date: 12/05/2023 10:29 AM
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common, "" That's justice Clarence Thomas, not Comer or Biden. ASAIK, neither Comer or Biden forgave loans."" ALWAYS confused, but never in doubt. Were the , payments, family members received, treated as, LOANS, rather than income ? YOU know the facts, really? Were the , loans, from foreign sources , later, forgiven ? YOU know ? If you are auditioning for your own hour show on msnbc you aren't doing a very good job bud. btw," MY son, has done nothing wrong" . Come on man.
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Subject: Re: Biden family update, just in case
Date: 12/05/2023 10:53 AM
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hclasvegas: ALWAYS confused, but never in doubt. Were the , payments, family members received, treated as, LOANS, rather than income ? YOU know the facts, really?

Acquaint yourself with the facts.

CNN reviewed the banking records: But banking records reviewed by CNN, which Comer’s committee possesses, provide substantial evidence in support of the Democrats’ assertions that there was indeed a $200,000 loan from Joe Biden to James Biden less than two months before the James Biden "loan repayment" check to Joe Biden for the same amount.

Since it's become clear you don't want to do anything more than toss around silly innuendos, it's time for me to exit this thread.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/31/politics/fact-check...
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Hey Vegas,

Remember when Saudi Arabia gave Ivanka and Jared $2 Billion and you said nothing?

Remember when the GOP elected a speaker of the house who thinks the earth is 6,000 yrs old and you said nothing?

Remember when Trump got indicted 4 times on 91 charges for everything from paying a porn star hush money to subverting democracy, and you said nothing?

Remember when Trump raped Jean Carol and you said nothing?

Remember when Trump added $8 trillion to the national debt and you said nothing?

Remember when the religious nut jobs on the supreme court took away a women's right to decide what happens to her own body and you said nothing?

I like when you say nothing, please do more of that.

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Subject: Re: Biden family update, just in case
Date: 12/05/2023 11:07 AM
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CNN reviewed the banking records

CNN?? You get your news from CNN? c’on man, nobody watches CNN anymore, their ratings
are in the sewer. CNN is garbage.
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Date: 12/05/2023 11:07 AM
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I'm disappointed at how slow the judicial machinery works.

Trump's m.o. is famously delay,delay, delay, then settle when all other options have been exhausted.

It's a strategy that requires ample funds, and with campaign bucks Trump gets to pull this shit with other people's money!

Speaking of delaying tactics, if the SCOTUS does away with the power of the S.E.C. to penalize violators (inside traders, frontrunners, frauds and market manipulators of all stripes) with big bucks will be able to tie up the Halls of Justice like nobody has ever seen.
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Speaking of delaying tactics, if the SCOTUS does away with the power of the S.E.C. to penalize violators (inside traders, frontrunners, frauds and market manipulators of all stripes) with big bucks will be able to tie up the Halls of Justice like nobody has ever seen.

If the USSC makes up some new principal that Congress cannot delegate ANY rule-making or enforcement authority to an agency of the Administrative branch, the US will cease to exist in about 3.5 years. If you go back in history and look at the timelines between points at which crucial changes in the law unleashed exponentially powered frauds that melted down the economy, I would estimate the average is about seven years. For one fact on that seat-of-the-pants graph, just look at the Commodities and Futures Modernization Act (enacted in December 2000) and the securitization fraud that triggered a collapse of the entire world economy starting in March 2008 with the instant collapse of Bear Stearns but really taking hold in September 2008 with the collapse of Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac then Lehman Brothers.

And that was the behavior of the financial industry WITH the illusion of material regulation and some threat of criminal prosecution for gross abuses. (Some "threat." Remember, only a SINGLE bank executive was convicted of any crime as a result of the 2008 meltdown and only one BANK -- Abacus Bank, a community lender in NYC -- was criminally charged.) If the USSC de-fangs the regulatory and administrative powers of government agencies as part of some fixation on minimalist government and the need for Congress to decide EVERYTHING to avoid a despotic bureaucracy, the existing monopolies will grow unchecked to the point the fraud and mistakes they commit will outstrip any public ability to correct them. Without even the appearance of consequences, that will take even less time than normal.


WTH
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Date: 12/05/2023 12:08 PM
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Speaking of delaying tactics, if the SCOTUS does away with the power of the S.E.C. to penalize violators (inside traders, frontrunners, frauds and market manipulators of all stripes) with big bucks will be able to tie up the Halls of Justice like nobody has ever seen.

It's almost as if some on our SCOTUS likes corruption.
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Date: 12/05/2023 12:28 PM
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Banksy, neither Biden nor Trump should be on the ballot, I don’t pick the nominees. Jared disclosed the 2 billion dollar investment in his fund and he disclosed that the investment will generate 24 million a year in fees. It stinks, but he disclosed it all,and it’s legal follow? If Jared , forgot, to file his taxes for two consecutive years, I suspect he would faced an extensive multiyear audit. If Jared forgot to declare millions in, income, I suspect he would have gotten caught and faced a multiyear audit. You, are factually challenged pal, but I can’t prevent you from embarrassing yourself. Carry on.
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Date: 12/05/2023 2:42 PM
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If the USSC de-fangs the regulatory and administrative powers of government agencies as part of some fixation on minimalist government and the need for Congress to decide EVERYTHING to avoid a despotic bureaucracy, the existing monopolies will grow unchecked to the point the fraud and mistakes they commit will outstrip any public ability to correct them. Without even the appearance of consequences, that will take even less time than normal.

Trump rails against the 'communists, socialists, fascists' when he is the only POTUS contender who would seriously take us into authoritarianism.

I imagine the US under Trumpism would look a lot like Putin's Russia. Utterly corrupt with wealthy oligarchs benefitting from the corruption and cronyism.

Trump's administration was incompetent and corrupt: Kakistocracy + kleptocracy. If he gets his way it will only get worse.
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Date: 12/05/2023 5:40 PM
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CNN reviewed the banking records: But banking records reviewed by CNN, which Comer’s committee possesses, provide substantial evidence in support of the Democrats’ assertions that there was indeed a $200,000 loan from Joe Biden to James Biden less than two months before the James Biden "loan repayment" check to Joe Biden for the same amount.

And presented with enough evidence that there is a loan, trained investigators document it and drop it, moving onto a more promising area. However this is a politically motivated investigation, so this is not done. Instead what you do is mention the $200,00 payment that has "loan" written on it,, then mention money from Chinese sources paid to Hunter, or maybe just that he's affiliated with them, etc. This, or something similar, seems to do the trick every time and without proof, and with evidence to the contrary, people become firm believers and that faith cannot be shaken.
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And presented with enough evidence that there is a loan, trained investigators document it and drop it, moving onto a more promising area. - Lapsody

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enough evidence? All the CNN article did was speculate in a different direction concerning what a few checks "truly" represented.
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Date: 12/05/2023 7:21 PM
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BHM: enough evidence? All the CNN article did was speculate in a different direction concerning what a few checks "truly" represented.

Hardly.

<snip>But banking records reviewed by CNN, which Comer’s committee possesses, provide substantial evidence in support of the Democrats’ assertions that there was indeed a $200,000 loan from Joe Biden to James Biden less than two months before the James Biden "loan repayment" check to Joe Biden for the same amount.<snip>

It isn't hard to read bank records, I've done it. So there is SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, not speculation done lightly - first. Second, there isn't anything that contradicts what ix written on the checks. All that is written by Comer - that there is a pattern that shows Biden knew, participated, and benefited hasn't been supported one bit. Not at all.

This is only a few checks:

May 26 From: Joe Biden To: Hunter Biden $200,000 Note: Loan
Aug 6 From: Hunter Biden To: Joe Biden $200,000 Note: Loan Repayment

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<May 26 From: Joe Biden To: Hunter Biden $200,000 Note: Loan
Aug 6 From: Hunter Biden To: Joe Biden $200,000 Note: Loan Repayment>

Cool, now do the $2 Billion Saudi Arabia gave Jared and Ivanka.
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Date: 12/06/2023 1:31 AM
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BHM: Did you read this part of the CNN article that Commonone quoted from?

"Comer’s team does not dispute that these banking records show that James Biden was sent a $200,000 wire transfer on January 12, 2018, less than two months before James Biden and Sara Biden wrote Joe Biden the March 1, 2018, “loan repayment” check for $200,000."

If so, how did you get this? enough evidence? All the CNN article did was speculate in a different direction concerning what a few checks "truly" represented.

Because it doesn't look like they speculated about what a few checks truly represented at all. And Comer's stretching it waaaay out there to titillate the base. Innuendo Kings.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/31/politics/fact-check...

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Me: I'm disappointed at how slow the judicial machinery works.

Sano Trump's m.o. is famously delay,delay, delay, then settle when all other options have been exhausted.

It's a strategy that requires ample funds, and with campaign bucks Trump gets to pull this shit with other people's money!


And it's effective. That one judge in Florida is going to help Trump delay the case until after the election. Nothing penetrates the solid MAGA wall, and probably not a conviction either.
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Date: 12/06/2023 3:28 PM
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A refresher course on the $2 Billion Saudi/Javanka deal of the century.

"The Times noted, the panel that performs due diligence for the Saudi fund concluded Kushner’s firm was a joke—that management was “inexperience[d],” that the kingdom would be responsible for “the bulk of the investment and risk,” that its fees were “excessive,” and that the firm’s operations were “unsatisfactory in all aspects.” The panel warned that the country shouldn’t give the former first son-in-law a dime. But then those grave, unequivocal warnings were mysteriously overridden by the fund’s board, led by M.B.S., i.e., the guy who approved a plan to kidnap and dismember a man via bone saw and benefited from Kushner’s unwavering support. (Kushner, The Times reminds people, “played a leading role inside the Trump administration defending [bin Salman]” after Jamal Khashoggi’s murder, and urged Donald Trump to support the prince, arguing that the whole situation would blow over.)"

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/04/jared-kush...
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