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In December 2024, in the thread "Re: BRK: Why Not XOM?", BreckHutHigh asked the members: "What about the long road trips with kids?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Let’s See If This Pans Out for Putin
Date: 08/21/25 12:51 PM
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No one's ever said otherwise. Which it's a little weird that you keep saying over and over again that the Ukrainians can't physically dislodge the Russian military. No one's said otherwise, many people have said that it's true, and everyone keeps pointing out to you that it has nothing to do with the Ukrainian war plans.

No one's bothered to acknowledge reality. They're too busy trying to get their shots in.

If the Ukrainians (and the West) let Russia know that they can successfully take part of Ukraine, Russia will certainly come back for the rest. Why wouldn't they?

The world has been there, done that. The Crimean peninsula. This particular phase of the war isn't touching that. After Obama did nothing but stare at Putin blankly that collection of zip codes has been owned by the Russians.

The only logical course for Ukraine is to keep fighting until the Russians realize that they're just not going to ever see the Ukrainians give up, and choose to leave.

And this is where my other main point comes in: so long as they have the will and aren't ground up in the process.

It's a very solid war plan, though. Not really. They need to look for ways to take the fight to Putin and cripple his ability to keep going. One way to do that is to start really going after Russian oil infrastructure. Doing that will divert resources away from the front lines as Russia has to spend energy defending more things. If they manage to sink a few of those ghost fleet tankers and disrupt exports, more the better.

The mujahedin didn't have the dudes, guns, or money to drive out the Russian military on their own.
Exactly. We gave them enough guns and money to go with the dudes they had.

Early on you guys kept bringing up "asymmetry" and related concepts but then later noted that we "haven't reached that phase yet". There's a vast difference between having to control an entire country by garrisoning troops there and run it on the daily and a slow moving front line fight.
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