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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: How man MAGAs are stupid enough...
Date: 08/25/2024 3:57 PM
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...to believe this kind of (typical) Trumpian lying?

“It must be remembered that the Democrats are the radical ones on this position because they support abortion up to and even beyond the ninth month. The concept of having an abortion in the later months and even execution after birth. And that’s exactly what it is. The baby is born, the baby is executed after birth is unacceptable. And almost everyone agrees with that.” — Donald Trump

How do you Trumpers justify voting for such a blatant liar? He opens his mouth, he lies. Don't give me false equivalencies, they don't exist. Trump is in a league of his own when it comes to lying.

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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: How man MAGAs are stupid enough...
Date: 08/25/2024 4:31 PM
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How do you Trumpers justify voting for such a blatant liar? - ges

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We have been over this multiple times.

Trumps policies are better for the economy and our security (open border incl here) than Kamala's. It IS that simple.
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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: How man MAGAs are stupid enough...
Date: 08/25/2024 4:53 PM
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bighairymike: Trumps policies are better for the economy and our security (open border incl here) than Kamala's. It IS that simple.

Um, what now?

You actually believe that a 10% across-the-board tariff on imports, a 60% tariff on imports from China, and a 100% tariff on foreign cars – including from Mexico – is "better for the economy"?

Well, sure, if, as Moody's forecasts, you want to see the US economy lose at least 675,000 jobs, wipe out 0.6 percentage points from US gross domestic product, and boost the unemployment rate by 0.4 percentage points. And a decline in real income, consumer spending from higher prices, and knock-on effects that could do further damage to the U.S. and world economies.

And what border policy? Build a wall and have Mexico pay for it? Separate children from their families? Ban Muslims?

In case you missed it, he personally killed a bipartisan border policy so that nitwits could say, "Oh, Trump is better for our security."

Sheesh.

BTW, border encounters are now as low as they were in 2019, pre-pandemic.

The conned never see the con. Or if they do, they never admit they were conned.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: How man MAGAs are stupid enough...
Date: 08/25/2024 4:54 PM
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In case you missed it, he personally killed a bipartisan border policy

Dishonest to the core.
That bill was trash, it was dead before it arrived in the House, and we debated it here extensively.

Stop lying about it.
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Author: sano 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: How man MAGAs are stupid enough...
Date: 08/25/2024 4:56 PM
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Trumps policies are better for the economy and our security (open border incl here) than Kamala's.

Consensus seems to be that the first year of a new Admin is the last year of the previous admin. So.....

We won't know the result of Kamala's admin until, what year 2 or 3 of her 1st term? As such your explanation is invalid.
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: How man MAGAs are stupid enough...
Date: 08/25/2024 5:16 PM
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Trumps policies are better for the economy and our security (open border incl here) than Kamala's. It IS that simple.


That's funny, Mike.

Trump is a man with only one policy: what's in it for me. You? He could give a shit about.

And this time he doesn't plan to have anyone get in the way with the real work of grifting. His first administration had some good people who knew something about governing...until they left in disgust or he fired them. He only wants sycophants around him.

He's incompetent and corrupt.

So your statement above is just silly nonsense.
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Author: very stable genius   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: How man MAGAs are stupid enough...
Date: 08/25/2024 5:18 PM
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"The conned never see the con. Or if they do, they never admit they were conned."

100% Yes!

I'm sure Mike's a fine person, but his inability to think critically has led to him being bamboozled time and again. It is sad actually...

"One of the saddest lessons of history is this:
If you've been bamboozled long enough, you tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. You're no longer interested
in finding the truth. The bamboozle has captured you. It's simply too painful to acknowledge, even to yourself,
that you've been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back."
~Carl Sagan

Trump has this power over Mike, and it is too painful for him to ever acknowledge it.

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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: How man MAGAs are stupid enough...
Date: 08/25/2024 6:27 PM
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Dishonest to the core.
That bill was trash, it was dead before it arrived in the House, and we debated it here extensively.

Stop lying about it.


He's not lying about it Dope. And I remember when you came out here saying - "they're taking away his(Trump's) best issue."
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Author: Umm 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: How man MAGAs are stupid enough...
Date: 08/26/2024 12:51 AM
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"Trumps policies are better for the economy and our security (open border incl here) than Kamala's. It IS that simple."

I am sure the simple minded people who go by "feelings" and get easily conned by propeganda that takes advantage of their ignorance, probably think this is true.

America needs a better informed voting populace though or democracy will fail.
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Author: Umm 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: How man MAGAs are stupid enough...
Date: 08/26/2024 4:39 AM
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"In case you missed it, he personally killed a bipartisan border policy"

"Dishonest to the core.
That bill was trash, it was dead before it arrived in the House, and we debated it here extensively.

Stop lying about it."
- Dishonest Dope.

Right. Stop lying about it Dope. When you made this assertion previously, multiple people linked to timelines and news stories showing what you allege was not true. You did not address the numerous links that were shown to you by suggesting some alternate explanation, or show your own evidence to support your allegation. You just simply ignored it all and then repeated your assertions.

Do you think you were acting in an honest manner?

"Debate" implies honest back and forth. You just ignored everything you found inconvenient and repeat your same view over again. Perhaps if you acted in a more honest manner people might take you more seriously.
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