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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
Number: of 48486 
Subject: CIA now favors COVID lab leak
Date: 01/25/2025 5:08 PM
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Thinking people have known this for years, but now that we have regular people in charge at the various agencies we can finally get the truth.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/25/us/politics/cia...

The C.I.A. has said for years that it did not have enough information to conclude whether the Covid pandemic emerged naturally from a wet market in Wuhan, China, or from an accidental leak at a research lab there.
But the agency issued a new assessment this week, with analysts saying they now favor the lab theory.
There is no new intelligence behind the agency’s shift, officials said. Rather it is based on the same evidence it has been chewing over for months.


and for those who want to claim that Bad Orange Man is overriding Muh Sciensssee:

Officials said the agency was not bending its views to a new boss, and that the new assessment had been in the works for some time.
In the final weeks of the Biden administration, Jake Sullivan, the national security adviser, ordered a new classified review of the pandemic’s origin. As part of that review, the agency’s previous director, William J. Burns, told analysts that they needed to take a position on the origins of Covid, though he was agnostic on which theory they should embrace, a senior U.S. intelligence official said.
Another senior U.S. official said it was Mr. Ratcliffe’s decision to declassify and release the new analysis.


I'm not sure why Jake Sullivan decided to finally order this study.

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Author: wzambon 🐝🐝 HONORARY
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Number: of 48486 
Subject: Re: CIA now favors COVID lab leak
Date: 01/25/2025 7:30 PM
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But the agency issued a new assessment this week, with analysts saying they now favor the lab theory.
There is no new intelligence behind the agency’s shift, officials said. Rather it is based on the same evidence it has been chewing over for months.


Now that Trump is in office and mass firings started…. Now that IGs are being removed and gov’t scientific analyses publications have been stopped, you are going to see more of the same.

Pretty soon, every single federal agency including law enforcement will be singing from the MAGA songbook.

Every conspiracy theory Trump buys int, every cokamamie bit of nonsense that serve’s Trump’s political interests will be dressed up in official language and published by the Minustry of Truth.

That’s how Xi does it. As well as Putin and Kim Jung Un- three strongmen who at various times, Trump has praised for “controlling their people”

Welcome to the triumph of alternative facts.







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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
Number: of 48486 
Subject: Re: CIA now favors COVID lab leak
Date: 01/25/2025 7:53 PM
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So you think the lab leak theory is a conspiracy?
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Author: wzambon 🐝🐝 HONORARY
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Number: of 48486 
Subject: Re: CIA now favors COVID lab leak
Date: 01/25/2025 8:07 PM
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So you think the lab leak theory is a conspiracy?

I believe the original CIA working conclusion- that not enough information had been collected to form a final conclusion.

As your quoted source indicated, no new data or information has been gathered to tip the analysis one way or the other.

The only thing that has changed is the new administrated which has already shown a marked predilection for muzzling governmental agencies from publishing any studies that contradict his opinions.

We’re seeing that in real time
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Author: Lambo 🐝  😊 😞
Number: of 48486 
Subject: Re: CIA now favors COVID lab leak
Date: 01/25/2025 9:04 PM
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So you think the lab leak theory is a conspiracy?

The report should be evaluated by the pros. I'm not sure why these non-science agencies weigh in on this, I don't give their evaluation much weight, especially when the evidence is fragmentary. China refused to cooperate and we'll never know. You can blame China for not cooperating.
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Author: sano 🐝  😊 😞
Number: of 48486 
Subject: Re: CIA now favors COVID lab leak
Date: 01/25/2025 9:06 PM
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That’s how Xi does it. As well as Putin and Kim Jung Un- three strongmen who at various times, Trump has praised for “controlling their people”
Welcome to the triumph of alternative facts.


Yup.

“Monday you hit, you flood the zone. Second week you’ll flood the zone,” said Stephen K. Bannon, Trump’s first White House chief strategist who now hosts an influential online talk show. “It’s working. It’s just stunning to me what they’re doing, and it’s not getting covered because it’s too much. They’re overwhelming the system.”
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
Number: of 48486 
Subject: Re: CIA now favors COVID lab leak
Date: 01/25/2025 9:08 PM
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The only thing that has changed is the new administrated which has already shown a marked predilection for muzzling governmental agencies from publishing any studies that contradict his opinions.

We’re seeing that in real time


Didn't read the article, did you? The study was initiated by Jake Sullivan. Are you aware of who he is and what position he held?

I knew this board would claim that Cheeto Hitler was forcing the CIA to say that...but that's not what happened.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
Number: of 48486 
Subject: Re: CIA now favors COVID lab leak
Date: 01/25/2025 9:08 PM
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The report should be evaluated by the pros. I'm not sure why these non-science agencies weigh in on this,

So it's your contention that the CIA and other agencies don't employ scientists?
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Author: Lambo 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: CIA now favors COVID lab leak
Date: 01/25/2025 9:14 PM
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The report should be evaluated by the pros. I'm not sure why these non-science agencies</b< weigh in on this,

So it's your contention that the CIA and other agencies don't employ scientists?
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: CIA now favors COVID lab leak
Date: 01/25/2025 9:35 PM
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So it's your contention that the CIA and other agencies don't employ scientists?</i:

That’s the question for you. Why do you think the CIA is non-science?

What do you think goes on here:
https://www.cia.gov/about/organization/directorate...
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
Number: of 48486 
Subject: Re: CIA now favors COVID lab leak
Date: 01/25/2025 9:56 PM
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SNIP The Directorate of Science and Technology (DS&T) applies innovative, scientific, engineering, and technical solutions in support of our foreign intelligence mission...

...What We Do

We create, adapt, develop, and operate technical collection systems and apply enabling technologies to the collection, processing, and analysis of information all to maintain a competitive advantage over our adversaries. SNIP

Doesn't sound like anything biological. Do you see any?
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Author: sano 🐝  😊 😞
Number: of 48486 
Subject: Re: CIA now favors COVID lab leak
Date: 01/26/2025 8:43 AM
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No...
Trump's loyalist mouthpiece at the CIA is contributing to flooding the zone with shit.

Soon to be buried by another layer of shit as the JFK/RFK/MLK assassination files are released.

Conspiracy lovers rejoice!
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
Number: of 48486 
Subject: Re: CIA now favors COVID lab leak
Date: 01/26/2025 1:03 PM
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China refused to cooperate and we'll never know. You can blame China for not cooperating.

This.

It is possible. It's also possible that the wrong mix of caged creatures was in a wet market one morning. We will never know.

That doesn't excuse the denials of the problem from the administration in control at that time.
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