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Author: Umm 🐝🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: El Salvador Controls Their Gang Problem
Date: 02/27/2023 4:37 PM
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"Here is the reality."

That isn't reality. It is your opinion. An opinion that is very far from reality.

"Until the border is secure (don't get literal on me, there always be a few sneaking in)"

So you readily admit there will always be some sneaking in. That means subconsciously you recognize that a secure border isn't a binary thing (i.e. secure or not secure) like you are asking for, but instead a spectrum of levels of security.

So your call for a secure border first is self admittedly nonsense.

"there is no point in passing laws make it easier to come here legally or to stay here if you already came illegally."

That is simply not true.

A vast large percentage of the people who sneak into the country across the southern border are people who are otherwise normal law-abiding people looking for economic opportunities. If there was some sort of seasonal worker visa system set up where these people could apply to get seasonal worker visas to come in and pick our fruit, wash our dishes, etc. and then return home only to be able to legally come back next year a large percentage of the border crossers would jump all over it. The number of illegal border crossings would plummet because those people would be crossing legally rather than illegally.

Your conservative political overlords do not want this though. For one, it will cost them money. All of those wealthy, rural, Republican California farmers don't want their workers to be legal because if they were, the workers would have legal protections. As it is now, they get the fruits of their labor (literally) while being able to take advantage of them because the workers cannot complain. The second reason your political masters don't want this is because then they couldn't keep you scared and hiding under the bed by flashing a BORDER CRISIS chryon across the bottom of the screen every 15 minutes.

Furthermore, doing things like the Biden Administrations setting up of the Parole Process in Venezuela (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statement... ) and expanding it to other countries has reduced the number of people from those countries trying to cross into the United States illegally. Spending more money on these programs would make a bigger difference.

So you are just plain wrong. If the goal is to reduce illegal border crossings then there are plenty of reasons to pass laws to make it easier to come here legally.

"Reagan was duped by the "Amnesty Now, Security Later" ruse by the Dems. It shouldn't be repeated."

LOL The nutty things that you hear from your info sources. Even St Ronny is no longer safe and can be sacrificed in the name of using your ignorance of the topic to scare you.

"Once the border is secure, we can have rational rules to keep out the few that we don't want in (eg previously deported felons, gang members) with some assurance they will stay out."

Actually we have that now. Whenever Democratic presidents sign executive orders telling prosecutors to spend what limited resources they have (remember, Republicans won't increase the money for processing illegal immigrants) to focus on the worst (the felons and the gang members) your poor information sources spin that as open borders!!!!! Democrats don't want to try and stop illegal immigration they are willing to look the other way. Your poor information sources aren't telling you that Democratic presidents are looking the other way on non-felon, non-gang member illegal immigrants because they are trying to use limited resources to handle the worst cases.

"I am all for immigration reform. But without border security, it is like passing laws with no police or criminal justice system to back it up."</I.

That is backwards. Without immigration reform you will never have relatively secure borders.
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