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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Affirmative Action
Date: 07/02/2023 1:20 PM
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It's really not helpful to lump people into a category (e.g. "liberals"), and then attribute a characteristic to that group. Firstly, it is almost never accurate, and secondly, if puts people on the defensive. Then you get "us" vs "them", and no talking. Which is what dominates our politics today.

A quick google provided multiple links saying that conservatives are having a racism problem. The first few hits that weren't op-ed pieces.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-white-rep... (several years old, but actually shows it's a lot closer than might be expected)

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/08/12/de... (Republicans are more likely to want to avoid teaching about slavery)

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2022/2/17/racis... (a history going back to FDR, his programs, and the slow push for equal rights)

Heck, the Democrat Party used to own the South until LBJ pushed the CRA. Then all the conservatives from the Dems became Reps, and Nixon played on this to win the election ("Southern Strategy").

And yet it would still be unfair to say "white conservatives discriminate...". It's sometimes true, but not always true.

As for Affirmative Action, it has to end sometime. I am not learned enough to know when. Originally it tried to compensate for the disadvantages that were inherent in the black communities due to many decades of persecution and oppression. And I think it was relatively successful. Should we now abandon it? That would be a worthy discussion. I don't know the answer. At some point we should because it will give preference where it is no longer needed, and discriminate against other groups (e.g. whites). I'm skeptical we are at that point, but I'm willing to listen to data on the subject.

Some people changed their minds about racism. LBJ did. I read an interesting biography wherein he started as a racist, and then ended up working with poor black communities, and became a champion of equality. Others will never change their minds, and we'll just have to wait from them to grow old and die. A change that has taken generations, and is still on-going (e.g. lots of baby boomers left, but baby-boomer parents are pretty much gone and had more racist attitudes than their baby-boomer kids, who have more racist attitudes than their generation-whatever kids today).
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