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When the draft dodger, Trumpedo, who said he considered himself “a great and very brave soldier” for battling the possibility of contracting a sexually transmitted disease in the 80s signed his umpteenth executive order to change the name of the Department of Defense to the Department of War, he said that after WWII “we were very strong, but we never fought to win. We just didn’t fight to win.”
Aside from his disrespect for those in uniform, Trumpedo is also a moron with respect to History. Trumpedo said that the name, which was changed by president Harry Truman in 1949 to combine all of branches of the military, had been changed because the country “decided to go woke.”
Umm, wut now?
Truman was “woke”?
Returning Vets were “woke”?
Trumpedo is such a dickwad.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/05/us/politics/tru...
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Sure they did.
WW2 when FDR and Truman and Sheeple caged Japanese peopple and used atom bombs, and a "surprise" attack on Pearl Harbor gave impetus to it....no that had nothing to do with America taking a throne in Saudi Arabia....no way.
Vietnam was 100% an effort to WIN
The Gulf War that left Saddam in power, and put permanent American bases in Osama's backyard - yeah that was a win.
When Obama fought Putin to protect Crimea, that war...oh wait, Sheeple and Obama never fought that one - they gave their buddy putin Crimea.
BAAAAAAA
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When the draft dodger, Trumpedo, who said he considered himself “a great and very brave soldier” for battling the possibility of contracting a sexually transmitted disease in the 80s signed his umpteenth executive order to change the name of the Department of Defense to the Department of War, he said that after WWII “we were very strong, but we never fought to win. We just didn’t fight to win.”
He should have gone back even further, to when the Department of War was called the “National Military Establishment”, fondly abbreviated as "Enemy".
From HCR today:
Today President Donald J. Trump signed an executive order to rename the Department of Defense as the Department of War, although the 1947 abandonment of the Department of War name was not simply a matter of substituting a new name for the original one. In 1947, to bring order and efficiency to U.S. military forces, Congress renamed the Department of War as the Department of the Army, then brought it, together with the Department of the Navy and a new Department of the Air Force, into a newly established “National Military Establishment” overseen by the secretary of defense.
In 1949, Congress replaced the National Military Establishment name, whose initials sounded unfortunately like “enemy,” with Department of Defense. The new name emphasized that the Allied Powers of World War II would join together to focus on deterring wars by standing against offensive wars launched by big countries against their smaller neighbors. Although Trump told West Point graduates this year that “[t]he military's job is to dominate any foe and annihilate any threat to America, anywhere, anytime, and any place,” in fact, the stated mission of the Department of Defense is “to provide the military forces needed to deter war and ensure our nation’s security.”
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“we were very strong, but we never fought to win. We just didn’t fight to win.”
If only Donny had been there to lead the troops. LMAO
This draft dodger should STFU! But, of course, he never will.
My 101 year old father-in-law was shot down over Germany on his second bombing mission and was POW.
Of Trump he says: "I wouldn't piss in his ass if his guts was on fire!"
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his...executive order to change the name of the Department of Defense to the Department of War...
He apparently sees the military as a way to wage war and not for defense, so this is actually quite scary. Especially, for someone who has his stubby little fingers on the launch codes.
Pete
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Trumpedo said that the name, which was changed by president Harry Truman in 1949 to combine all of branches of the military, had been changed because the country “decided to go woke.”As Trump, and the SecWar are saying, they want to build a "war" culture. Remember how Bush #43 was trying to do the same thing? Remember the media nattering about the "terror threat level" all the time? Remember how everyone in the military, had to wear camo, even if they were thousands of miles from anything resembling combat? Staff at Walter Reed hospital was wearing camo, as if they were staffing an aid station in Fallujah. Even the Navy changed work uniforms to the "blueberry" camo, as if a 100,000 ton carrier would be rendered invisible, by the crewmen inside wearing camo.
Trump isn't "isolationist". He is just moving the focus of US military intervention to the western hemisphere. He has gone quiet, recently, about invading Panama and Greenland...because knocking over Venezuela would be much more profitable. He'll probably demand 51% of the stock in PDVSA as "reparations" for the cost of invading the country and installing a quisling.
Trump says Venezuelan jets will be shot down if they endanger US ships
Trump told his general, standing beside him, that he could do anything he wanted if the situation escalated.https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cr70511v774oSteve
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after WWII “we were very strong, but we never fought to win. We just didn’t fight to win.”
Here’s an interesting statistic:
Vietnam, in total, is roughly the same size as Ohio, Tennessee, and Kentucky. South Vietnam is about the size of Arkansas.
Now, about World War II: Add up all the ordinance - artillery and bombs - that were used, by everyone , Allies and Axis powers in every theater of war:
All the bombs made and produced by the US. Everything that Germans dropped on England in the Blitz. All the munitions used by Italy in the African campaign. Everything Japan used as it rampaged through China, Burma, Indochina and the Phillipines.
Add in all the ordinance in the US campaigns through the Solomon Islands, Midway, Okinawa, Iwo Jima and the rest. Be sure to include everything the Nazi’s shot off as they took over Poland, France, Denmark, Sweden, Belgium, the Netherlands, Yugoslavia, Greece and the rest.
Be sure to include all the bombs dropped on Germany by the US and England, and don’t forget to add in the ordinance used by both sides on the road to the battles of Stalingrad, Leningrad, and the oil fields of Baku and Grozny. And don’t forget about the explosives at D-Day used by both sides.
And while I’ve left out a lot, the list starts to be tiresome, so let’s just include the TNT equivalent of the bombs dropped on Nagasaki and on Hiroshima as we fill the pot.
Take all of that, and more. That’s how much explosive power we used in Vietnam, a single, small country somewhere in the remote area of Indochina. More, actually.
It’s difficult to try to reconcile the idea that “we didn’t try”. We did try. We screwed it up, we had bad strategies, we had bad generals, we had bad everything. It isn’t that “we didn’t try.” It’s that we lost. Period.
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Take all of that, and more. That’s how much explosive power we used in Vietnam, a single, small country somewhere in the remote area of Indochina. More, actually.
That's quite surprising. Where are the numbers that support this?
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The count on the ordinance expended in Viet Nam is correct making it the most heavily bombed piece of real estate in the world, until now. That dubious honor now belongs to Gaza, of course a much smaller parcel.
To date, the equivalent of 6-7 Hiroshima devices has been delivered.
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That's quite surprising. Where are the numbers that support this?
Fair question, though this observation has been made for decades.
But it would be good to see proof.
But anyone who has seen the moonscapes created by arc light strikes can believe it.
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That's quite surprising. Where are the numbers that support this? You could ask your friendly local AI “how much ordinance was dropped during World War II?” And you would be told:
During the Vietnam War, the United States dropped approximately 7.5 to 7.7 million tons of bombs and other ordnance on Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia. This makes it the heaviest aerial bombardment in history.
For perspective, this tonnage was:
More than three times the total U.S. bombing tonnage used during all of World War II. Or if you asked another way:
Yes, the United States dropped significantly more bombs by weight on Vietnam (and the greater Indochina region) than were used in the entirety of World War II. Estimates indicate that the total tonnage of ordnance dropped in Indochina was roughly 7.6 million tons, compared to approximately 2.1 million tons during World War II. Or this:
American aircraft dropped over 5 million tons of bombs on Vietnam– the largest bombardment of any country in history– and more than twice as much tonnage as the U.S. Air Force dropped in all of World War II. Over 4 million tons fell on the mostly rural areas of the former South Vietnam, plus 400,000 tons of napalm and 19 million gallons of herbicides. This compares with approximately 2 million tons on Laos and half a million tons on Cambodia. https://renewvn.org/the-most-bombed-place-on-earth...And added:
As one academic study put it, “Quang Tri province was basically bombed flat during the war, with most of its capital and infrastructure destroyed: only 11 of 3,500 Quang Tri villages were left unbombed by the end of the war.” Note: the claim that we dropped more tonnage than
everyone is easily supported, since the Allies used much more overall, especially in the gigantic raids over cities like Dresden and Tokyo than the Axis did, which relied more on ooh-scary Messerschmidt dive bombing as they invaded, or even in the Blitz over England.
We dropped more tonnage on Vietnam THAN ALL THE TONNAGE used in World War II by everyone, including the atomic bombs in Nagasaki and Hiroshima. I wouldn’t expect Colonel Bone Spurs to know that, however, or care if he did.
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tonnage comes home to roost.
Fitting.
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You could ask your friendly local AI “how much ordinance was dropped during World War II?” And you would be told:
Thanks. I haven't yet added AI consultation to my first line search tools, but perhaps I should.
I googled other ways and came up with similar numbers in my prior post.
