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Author: ptheland 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Mexico Pres schools Trump
Date: 11/28/2024 10:31 AM
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Demonstrating his weakness and ignorance, Trump got schooled by Mexico's President on tariffs and border issues. And now, having done absolutely nothing, he claims the southern border issues are fixed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc2kU0tzUZI

--Peter
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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mexico Pres schools Trump
Date: 11/28/2024 10:50 AM
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Demonstrating his weakness and ignorance, Trump got schooled by Mexico's President on tariffs and border issues. And now, having done absolutely nothing, he claims the southern border issues are fixed.

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Schooled, huh. Past tense, how very conclusive of you. Trump's tariff threat was tried and failed so it's game over as far as you are concerned. Trump tariffs were tried and rebuffed and any sort of remain in Mexico remains a distant pipe dream.

What we really have is Trump's first move in a long game that will present lots of options for carrots and sticks. And if you think Trump has capitulated in the presence of a Mark Cuban style strong woman, then you misunderstand Trump and his supporters, but there is nothing new about that.
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mexico Pres schools Trump
Date: 11/28/2024 10:51 AM
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And now, having done absolutely nothing, he claims the southern border issues are fixed.

Trump knows his MAGA base. It is so easy to 'succeed' when you have a cult following.
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Author: ptheland 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mexico Pres schools Trump
Date: 11/28/2024 11:09 AM
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Schooled, huh.

Yep.

Past tense, how very conclusive of you.

Yep again. That's the appropriate tense for things that happened in the past, even if the very recent past (as in yesterday).

But don't listen to me, listen to Trump.

Just had a wonderful conversation with the new President of Mexico, Claudia Sheinbaum Pardo. She has agreed to stop Migration through Mexico, and into the United States, effectively closing our Southern Border.

Then compare that to what Pardo said:

You may not be aware that Mexico has developed a comprehensive policy to assist migrants from different parts of the world who cross our territory en route to the southern border of the United States. As a result, and according to data from your country's Customs and Border Protection (CBP), encounters at the Mexico-United States border have decrease by 75% between December 2023 and November 2024. Moreover, half of those who arrive do so through a legally scheduled appointment under the United State's CBP One program.

Comparing the two, she didn't agree to anything. She merely told Trump (she "schooled" him) about what is already happening both in Mexico and the US.

But she goes on:

Even so, it is clear that we must work together to create a new labor mobility model that is necessary for your country, as well as address the root causes that compel families to leave their homes out of necessity. If even a small percentage of what the United States allocates to war were instead dedicated to building peace and fostering development, it would address the underlying causes of human mobility.

Hmmm. Doesn't that sound a lot like what Vice President Harris was working on? Addressing the reasons people were leaving their homes in Central and South America and migrating to the US?

But she goes on:

On another note, and for humanitarian reasons, Mexico has consistently expressed its willingness to help prevent the fentanyl epidemic in the United States from continuing. This is, after all, a public health and consumption problem within your society.

There's more, but I think you should get the point now.

Pardo schooled Trump and sent him home to do some remedial homework. She gave him nothing other than an education and he's claiming victory. What a moron.

--Peter
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mexico Pres schools Trump
Date: 11/28/2024 1:12 PM
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What we really have is Trump's first move in a long game that will present lots of options for carrots and sticks. And if you think Trump has capitulated in the presence of a Mark Cuban style strong woman, then you misunderstand Trump and his supporters, but there is nothing new about that.

The libs are 180 off of reality again:

“I had an excellent conversation with President Donald Trump,” she wrote on social media. “We addressed Mexico’s strategy regarding the migration phenomenon, and I shared that caravans are no longer reaching the northern border as they are being addressed within Mexico.”

That’s Mexico’s President saying no more migrant caravans.

Trump’s not even in office yet, and we’re already getting stuff done.

Winning. No, I never get tired of it. Just like libs never get tired of losing.

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Author: ptheland 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mexico Pres schools Trump
Date: 11/28/2024 1:21 PM
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The libs are 180 off of reality again:

Read EVERYTHING she said and not just bits and pieces.

You are lying by omission.

--Peter
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Author: Aussi   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mexico Pres schools Trump
Date: 11/28/2024 1:37 PM
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Read

I think you are talking to the wrong audience. Only very selected and edited sound bites are acceptable for the MAGA faithful!

Aussi
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mexico Pres schools Trump
Date: 11/28/2024 1:45 PM
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Only very selected and edited sound bites are acceptable for the MAGA faithful!

It’s okay. The US is headed for better times.
If the price of that is a lot of lib tears, bitterness and lashing out - it’s 100% worth it.
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mexico Pres schools Trump
Date: 11/28/2024 1:48 PM
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“That’s Mexico’s President saying no more migrant caravans”

Yep, President Trudeau is playing nice with Trump too.
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Author: alan81   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mexico Pres schools Trump
Date: 11/28/2024 1:53 PM
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Reading this thread reminds of the old Steve Jobs RDF. For those not familiar, RDF stood for Reality distortion field.
I think the more technical description is perception trumps reality. It is really nice that the MAGA crowd will view the world under Trump as so much better than it has been... regardless of reality.
Of course the concern for Dem voters is with the perception distortion Reps are more likely to stay in power, regardless of the reality.
Alan
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mexico Pres schools Trump
Date: 11/28/2024 1:56 PM
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Reading this thread reminds of the old Steve Jobs RDF. For those not familiar, RDF stood for Reality distortion field.

Thinking liberals might ask themselves the question:

Why couldn’t Biden extract some kind of promise from Mexico to stop caravans? Trump hasn’t even been sworn in yet.

The answer is that either a) he didn’t want to or b) he’s that incompetent.

I’ll leave it to the folks on this board who claimed the border was secure all this time to decide. (Speaking of reality distortion fields)
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Author: sano 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mexico Pres schools Trump
Date: 11/28/2024 2:00 PM
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Winning. No, I never get tired of it.

One reads that sentiment a lot on boards discussing DJT stock from people who bought in the first week of its IPO >$60.00
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Author: alan81   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mexico Pres schools Trump
Date: 11/28/2024 2:01 PM
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Try again... it was the Biden presidency that DID stop caravans...
Trump is just taking credit for it.
Alan
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mexico Pres schools Trump
Date: 11/28/2024 2:32 PM
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Try again... it was the Biden presidency that DID stop caravans...
Trump is just taking credit for it.


And when did this happen? 2022? 2023?

No?

All rightie then…
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Author: ptheland 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mexico Pres schools Trump
Date: 11/28/2024 3:22 PM
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Again, read more than just the sound bites you are spoon fed by your media overlords. Like Dope, in this case they are lying by omission.
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Author: ptheland 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mexico Pres schools Trump
Date: 11/28/2024 3:25 PM
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Why couldn’t Biden extract some kind of promise from Mexico to stop caravans?

There was no promise to stop caravans. There was a statement of fact there there ARE no caravans.

Listen to Melania. “Be better”
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mexico Pres schools Trump
Date: 11/28/2024 4:06 PM
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Pardo schooled Trump and sent him home to do some remedial homework. She gave him nothing other than an education and he's claiming victory. What a moron.


There are few leaders, past or present, that sound more puerile and idiotic than Trump. What an embarrassment.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mexico Pres schools Trump
Date: 11/28/2024 6:52 PM
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Butthurt and sore over current events is no way to be on Thanksgiving, son.
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mexico Pres schools Trump
Date: 11/28/2024 6:59 PM
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Trump’s not even in office yet, and we’re already getting stuff done

And then there is this..
SNIP
“It Only Took Three Days for Foreign Countries to Get In Line After Trump's Sweeping Win”

It's been just three days since President-elect Donald Trump won the 2024 election in a sweeping victory, and the world is already lining up.

Almost immediately after Trump took back the White House on Tuesday, the European Union Commission said it would begin buying oil from the United States—not Russia.
Trump has done more in the three days since winning the election and has not even been inaugurated yet than President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris did in their four years in office.

Von der Leyen said that it was "very important" for Brussels to have "common interests" with Trump after their first call with one another this week. She explained that Europe received "a lot of LNG via Russia," " so why not replace it with American LNG, which is cheaper for us and brings down our energy prices."

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/saraharnold/2024/11/...

Yep, just mention Trump’s name and snap of a finger things get done.

MAGA

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Author: alan81   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mexico Pres schools Trump
Date: 11/29/2024 11:30 AM
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And when did this happen? 2022? 2023?

"In January 2023, CBP One's functionality was expanded to include unauthorized migrants seeking protection from violence, poverty, or persecution.[4]

In May 2023, CBP One was designated by Biden administration as the only path to request asylum on the U.S.-Mexico border and book asylum appointments"

Mexico's president cites CBP one as the reason caravans to the US have stopped. Also as the reason encounters at the border are down significantly.

--Alan
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mexico Pres schools Trump
Date: 11/29/2024 12:14 PM
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Uh, huh. 2023 was when Biden and his enablers were telling us there was no crisis at the border.
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Author: Lambo   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mexico Pres schools Trump
Date: 11/29/2024 12:16 PM
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DOPE: And when did this happen? 2022? 2023?

Alan: "In January 2023, CBP One's [an app] functionality was expanded to include unauthorized migrants seeking protection from violence, poverty, or persecution.[4]

In May 2023, CBP One was designated by Biden administration as the only path to request asylum on the U.S.-Mexico border and book asylum appointments"

Mexico's president cites CBP one as the reason caravans to the US have stopped. Also as the reason encounters at the border are down significantly.


ME: You are now due for a derisive dismissive with a chortle from the Dopester, and JediSheeple will appear and laugh, praising the Dopester as the Godfather.

All of Magadom will believe that Trump did all of that with one phone call on one day. For the rest of our lives we will be told that Trump accomplished all of this with one magic phone call on one magic day.

For those who don't know CBP One is an app for your phone or PC.
https://english.elpais.com/usa/2024-10-14/how-does...

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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mexico Pres schools Trump
Date: 11/29/2024 12:33 PM
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Dope: Uh, huh. 2023 was when Biden and his enablers were telling us there was no crisis at the border.

No, he called it a crisis in 2021, but by Jan 2024 said this:

“Mr. President,” one of them asked, “would you call the situation on the southern border a ‘crisis’?”

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“No,” said Biden, according to the White House transcript, “but I wish they would react. I’ve been pushing them—my Republican colleagues—since I got into office. I think we have to make major changes at the border. I’ve been pushing it. I’m prepared to make significant alterations at the border. And there are negotiations going on for the last five weeks, so I’m hopeful we’ll get there.”

Another reporter asked Biden if he was willing to take “executive action when it comes to the border to address the border crisis if Republicans don’t pass more funding?”

“Well, Republicans have to pass funding,” Biden said. “They have to—I’ve read one Republican said, ‘We don’t want our border [inaudible] it’ll only help Biden.'

https://www.dailysignal.com/2024/01/17/no-crisis-a...

And of course, Trump put the kbosh to that bill, so that he could make his magic phone call on that magic day.

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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mexico Pres schools Trump
Date: 11/29/2024 1:08 PM
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Thank God for Jedi, Dope, Mike and LM. Since I only follow left wing bubble news and can’t read past headlines, I don’t really know anything about current events

You’re welcome. People like us are here to make comprehension available for folks like you.

Like this. Say, did an app really stop caravans? The short answer is HAHAHAHAHA, no.

https://homeland.house.gov/2023/10/23/new-document...

Hundreds of thousands of inadmissible aliens, including from hostile nations like Russia, released into the interior

WASHINGTON, D.C. — Following months of stonewalling, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) finally responded to multiple requests by the House Committee on Homeland Security for information and documents regarding the expanded use of the CBP One app by DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas’ department to release hundreds of thousands of otherwise inadmissible aliens into the United States. The documents covered the period between Jan. 12, 2023, and Sept. 30, 2023.


Why rush the border in a caravan when you can download the app and go through any port?

You’re welcome.

BTW. Leave the insults to people who have knowledge and game. You possess neither.
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Mexico Pres schools Trump
Date: 11/29/2024 3:22 PM
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Thank God for Jedi, Dope, Mike and LM. Since I only follow left wing bubble news and can’t read past headlines, I don’t really know anything about current events</i?

Dope compliments in self in a statement then segues into claiming there were no caravans due to the app, insults everyone then warns people not to insult people. Par for the course.

Didja miss the refute of your claim Bidon says there was no crisis in 2023? No response so it stands, and then we refuted Trump's claim about Caravans, so you made light of that. And you insulted everyone, put a fabricated statement in italics as if I stated it in a response to me.

So you refuted nothing and just moved on. Typical.
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