bighairymike: Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

What point do you think you're cleverly making there?

Unlike others faced with 91 felony indictments, Orange Jesus has never spend a minute in jail awaiting trial. So, no bail issues.

As for "excessive fines," the fine in his finger rape trial were not excessive, although it's for him to make that argument during appeal, I suppose. And his punitive damages would not have risen if he had not continued to defame E Jean Carroll.

As for the NY fraud case, judge Engoron explained that the lower loan interest rates Trump received through fraud allowed him to build projects he wouldn’t have otherwise been able to finish. The judge determined that those savings and windfall profits were “ill-gotten gains”:

-- $168 million, plus interest, in savings on loans he obtained using his inflated financial statements for a golf resort near Miami, a Chicago hotel and condominium tower, a Washington, D.C. hotel and a Manhattan office building.

-- $126.8 million, plus interest, in profit from selling the Trump International Hotel in Washington in May 2022 to a company that now operates it as a Waldorf Astoria. Trump used $170 million of the $375 million to pay off a loan on the property. Other proceeds went to his children.

-- $60 million, plus interest, from selling the rights to manage a New York City golf course in June 2023. Engoron noted in his ruling that the buyer, Bally’s Corporation, stands to pay Trump an additional $115 million if it obtains a casino license for the property. However, he did not say if he would require Trump to give up that money, too.

Stop making excuses for the finger rapist who is guilty of business fraud, encouraged Russia to invade the EU, stole and refused to return top secret intelligence, quotes Hitler, and says that Jews who don't vote for him hate Israel and their religion.

In short, get out of the cult.

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