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Author: sano 🐝  😊 😞
Number: of 48489 
Subject: Heads we lose....
Date: 02/05/2024 11:12 AM
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Heads we lose? Tails we lose?

"Supreme Court Shocker? Here’s What Happens if Trump Gets Kicked Off the Ballot

This editorial predicts violent MAGA eruptions no matter which way the SCOTUS decides.

" In other words, if ever there were a case in which the Supreme Court might put a finger on the scales in favor of keeping the peace over following the law, this one might be it."

Either way "it could get wild."

"My greatest concern of a ruling disqualifying is not therefore about a hit to the court’s legitimacy, but the potential for violence. The idea that the Supreme Court would remove from the ballot a candidate, who has millions of strong followers, in the midst of an election runs the risk of social unrest during a period of intense political polarization. That’s not a reason for the court to avoid doing what’s right. But it is a reason to be prepared for anything, especially given Trump’s track record in encouraging violence when he doesn’t get his way, which is what got us to this point in the first place."

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Author: WatchingTheHerd HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Heads we lose....
Date: 02/05/2024 12:02 PM
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E.J. Dionne wrote an editorial in The Washington Post explaining why he changed his mind about this issue and now believes the Supreme Court should rule that Trump should be removed from the ballot. His editorial was basically an anlaysis of the amicus brief filed by the four historians who cited numerous communications from those who DRAFTED the Fourteenth Amendment that explicitly stated the language of Section Three was explicitly intended to include precluding oath-breakers from become President as well.

He ended his commentary with this:

The biggest paradox of all: Throwing Trump off the ballot would seem, on its face, the opposite of democracy. Yet the whole point of Section 3 is to protect constitutional democracy from anyone who has already tried to destroy it. If its provisions don’t apply to Trump, they don’t apply to anyone. The court would not be disqualifying him. He disqualified himself.

Another point Dionne makes is that in a climate where "states' rights" generates different political inclinations on a per-issue bases, the decision by one state to prohibit the appearance of a candidate would appear to have undue influence on the "choice" of other states to support a candidate for a national office. Well? That's tough. "States' rights" cuts both ways. DOZENS of Republican Congressional members expressed ZERO concern about REJECTING the legitimate electoral votes of more than a HANDFUL of states because their preferred candidate didn't win those states. And wasn't it strange how, in a climate where DOZENS of states changed election laws to encourage participation amid concerns of COVID that the only states in which fraud was alleged were those that Trump lost? Ain't that the damndest thing?

You can read the whole editorial here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/02/04...


WTH
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Heads we lose....
Date: 02/05/2024 2:42 PM
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I looked at it previously and determined the USSC didn't have what it takes to take a correct historical interpretation of it, and there are ways to get out of it, so the court will decide to keep him on the ballot. If the court actually rules to keep him off the ballot I'll be flabbergasted.
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Author: WatchingTheHerd HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Heads we lose....
Date: 02/05/2024 4:28 PM
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I looked at it previously and determined the USSC didn't have what it takes to take a correct historical interpretation of it, and there are ways to get out of it, so the court will decide to keep him on the ballot. If the court actually rules to keep him off the ballot I'll be flabbergasted.

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I agree, 100%. Conservative members of the Court are working FEVERISHLY to dig up bogus alternate history and bizarre references they can cite for NOT following the clear intent of the Fourteenth Amendment and banning him nationwide from the ballot. The only question is how craven their analysis will be and how far into the alt-reality fringes of history and jurisprudence they'll have to go to find the excuses for them NOT to do their job.

One of the quotes referenced in the CSSC decision cites prior decisions which specifically instruct "we may not avoid our duty
to decide a case merely because it may have political implications." It wasn't an accident they included that reference. The justices writing the majority opinion in the CSSC ruling know exactly who the readers of their decision are. As I stated in my post last week, this is precisely why the CSSC opinion itself and the amicus brief filed by the historians were written as they were.


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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Heads we lose....
Date: 02/05/2024 5:24 PM
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A Republican former legislator is apparently going to go before the SCOTUS in support of excluding Trump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/02/05...

Anderson, 91, is the unlikely face of a challenge to Trump’s campaign that will be heard by the Supreme Court on Thursday. She was a force in Colorado politics for decades, serving as the first female majority leader in both chambers of the legislature. She is a Republican but has long been skeptical of Trump and believes he is an insurrectionist who crossed a verboten line on Jan. 6, 2021, that should bar him from holding office again.
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