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Subject: Re: What happens if Biden wins ?
Date: 05/14/24 2:59 PM
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Not correct. They would have had to have known there would have been a battlefront for public opinion. Biden's weakness is helping them win it.

So what? They knew there would be a battlefront for public opinion, but they wouldn't have refrained from the attack simply because the President was a different person. They're not exactly a conflict-avoidant group.

Not sure how you can say that; they specifically targeted a music festival they knew would have thousands of attendees right across the border. They planned in advance to massacre whomever they could find in the kibbutzes that were near the border. In short, they planned to kill thousands.

They didn't expect the plan to be nearly that successful. They hoped it would, of course - but they didn't expect that Israel would have pulled so many of its troops to the other side of the country, or would be so sluggish in responding. So Hamas had free reign over the area for far longer than they could have imagined. So they ended up with a "catastrophic success":

Hamas’s commitment to international law is, of course, questionable. But the group appeared genuinely stunned by the temporary collapse of Israel’s defenses. In an interview with the New Yorker, Moussa Abu Marzouk, a Hamas political leader, said his group “never expected” to wreak the havoc it did. One anonymous diplomat told Al Monitor that Hamas’s success “surprised” the group—and worried it. “With two abductees, they could have negotiated with Israel for permission to build a seaport and freedom for hundreds of prisoners held in Israeli jails,” the diplomat said. “With more than 100 abductees, they will face the entire Israeli army inside Gaza.” What is more, judging by the public interviews Hamas’s leaders have given, they do not appear to know the total number of hostages Palestinian fighters captured, suggesting a lack of coordination among militant groups in Gaza.

https://archive.ph/ATJcN#selection-1783.0-1787.690

This was a complete botch-up for Hamas - so it would have happened with or without Trump.
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