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In December 2024, in the thread "Re: BRK: Why Not XOM?", BreckHutHigh asked the members: "What about the long road trips with kids?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Author: knighttof3   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Race fluidity
Date: 06/08/23 4:29 PM
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Not if it's not true.

I mean, there are lots of thorny issues regarding self-identification (especially on racial matters) that even progressives disagree on, but no one thinks that a pretextual claim of self-identity has to be honored. You can't just say the phrase, "I identify as X" - and nothing else - and have it be true. It's not a magic incantation or ritualistic expression that becomes truth merely because you say it.

Right, that's the point I am getting at.

All of your statements apply to a pre-transition trans man (I mean a man who dresses as a woman, so maybe trans woman is the right term).
There is no biological basis for it. It is purely how he (she) feels on the inside.

Certainly that's true in most legal contexts. For example, a person who has never engaged in any observation, study, or practice of the Jewish faith can't just declare one Friday afternoon that they are an devout Jew and require their employer to accommodate their need to observe the Sabbath. The courts can and will interrogate the sincerity of one's professed religious belief - whether you actually believe what you claim to believe.

This I agree with. Nonetheless, the new Jewish person has to start somewhere. And that's how they can defend their choice to the court. Never mind that this only applies to basically honest people, and not criminals without qualms about lying to the court (as some trans prisoners have done).

People who have falsely claimed to be a particular race or ethnicity end up getting savaged

If they are detected. Until there is a truth detector, your sample is only the people who got caught.

I get your point, that intent matters. But trans advocates are basically claiming that ONLY the intent matters, biology does not. I can't imagine why it has to be true only for trans people, and not others.
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