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Author: Umm 🐝🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Abortion and 2024
Date: 03/23/2023 1:44 AM
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If the Democratic party wants to take back the Senate and get the upper hand in the Presidential race in 2024 they need to be laying the groundwork for such a win right now.

One way they could do that is have abortion on the ballot in as many states as possible. Even if it is nothing more than a non-binding ballot resolution that declares abortion should be legal in a state. The Democratic party, its donors, and its supporters should be collecting signatures or whatever it is they need to do to get abortion initiatives on each and every ballot. That needs to be done now. Then leading up to the election they should be running commercials talking about the ballot initiatives. Make sure everyone knows there is some sort of vote for abortion going on in the election.

This will drive women and youngsters to the polls in the election.
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Author: Goofyhoofy 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Abortion and 2024
Date: 03/23/2023 8:50 AM
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One way they could do that is have abortion on the ballot in as many states as possible.

Make it a two-fer, and put some sort of reasonable gun-safety mandate, perhaps simply requiring a gun safety course or trigger locks or a gun safe or whatever. But I agree, body-autonomy would be a higher motivator of the two, it just seems to me that with both you'd likely get a significant bump in turnout.
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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Abortion and 2024
Date: 03/23/2023 9:35 AM
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Make it a two-fer, and put some sort of reasonable gun-safety mandate, perhaps simply requiring a gun safety course or trigger locks or a gun safe or whatever. But I agree, body-autonomy would be a higher motivator of the two, it just seems to me that with both you'd likely get a significant bump in turnout.

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While we are adding things that drive advocates to the polls, but have no chance of passing, why not make it a three-fer and add a school voucher mandate too.

bhm, helpful.
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Author: flightdoc 101   😊 😞
Number: of 48486 
Subject: Re: Abortion and 2024
Date: 03/27/2023 12:02 PM
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I'll see your school voucher measure and add an exemption for childless couples and single adults to be excluded from paying for any public education at all or funding your vouchers.

Oh, I see. We pay into public education to repay for the education we received as children. Therefore your voucher argument has no merit. If you want a private education you must pay for it on your own. The social contract is for public education.
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Author: RaplhCramden   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Abortion and 2024
Date: 04/03/2023 1:38 PM
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Oh, I see. We pay into public education to repay for the education we received as children.

Not why I think any functioning society would think education was in the public interest. Job 1 of any civilization is to stay alive as a civilization. What with science, technology, and modern economy, doing that without an educated population is a fool's errand.

But if you need to tie why you should pay for the future, you might consider that it is because generations before you paid for their future which became your present and enabled you to make more than a $1 a day. Even today in the world there are people who work hard just to stay alive, yielding only a few bucks a day of output, and it is because they are doing this without infrastructure. Meanwhile anybody posting on this board is taking advantage of infrastructure that was ready for their exploitation when they got born or immigrated to the west.
If the infrastructure of my training and the output of all the other people around me allows me to make $100,000 a year instead of $1,000 a year in one of these, what are they called, sh1tholes, then how much of that extra $99,000 should I insist is entirely due to my efforts and therefore off the table for public purposes?

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