Halls of Shrewd'm / US Policy❤
No. of Recommendations: 7
Well, that's an interesting phrase, isn't it?
Abortion rights.
Don the Con sent a Truth Social message this morning that he will "be putting out my statement on Abortion and Abortion Rights tomorrow morning" and that "Republicans, and all others, must follow their hearts and minds" but that the great Ronald Reagan and "most other republicans" believe in exceptions for rape, incest, and the life of the mother.
I thought MAGA didn't believe in abortion or the right to exceptions for rape or incest. And that bans specifically prevented women from following their hearts and minds. And physicians' advice.
The kicker: in the grand scheme of things, though, Don the Con says winning elections -- and staying out of prison -- trumps dead babies.
So, did anyone actually believe that Trump would support a national 15-week or 6-week abortion ban if it would hurt his re-election bid?
The man who never goes to church and cannot quote a single bible verse is not a believer, like you.
Moral: there's no one and nothing Don the Con won't throw under the bus. His only interest, and only belief, is in himself.
No. of Recommendations: 1
I thought MAGA didn't believe in abortion or the right to exceptions for rape or incest. And that bans specifically prevented women from following their hearts and minds. And physicians' advice.
Once again you are wrong commonone. Most people believe in the sanctuary of a human life and are not quick to end the life of a viable child in the womb.
Oh the other hand though some (many) do not want to keep the life they helped to create other than because of a rape, incest or the health of the mother.
Some of these same people though are out campaigning, save the whales or the snail living in the nearby pond.
The man who never goes to church and cannot quote a single bible verse is not a believer, like you.
Why does one have to go to Church every Sunday to believe in God? Being a good person and doing what is right is the way of life the Church preaches on.
On the other hand, Biden, who claims to be a good Catholic and goes to Church regularly is a champion for abortion. Priests and Nuns are horrified with his unCatholic ways.
Moral: there's no one and nothing Don the Con won't throw under the bus. His only interest, and only belief, is in himself.
Polls show more and more Americans are leaving Biden in the dust wanting a better America and a better life for themselves, remembering how they prospered, no wars and America was respected when Trump was president.
Too bad for Trump the pandemic got in the way.
So far all Biden has done is to do what he is told to do by his handlers causing the downfall of America, the American dream and American’s taxpayers money being drained and given freely to the millions of illegal aliens.
No. of Recommendations: 7
LurkerMom: Most people believe in the sanctuary of a human life and are not quick to end the life of a viable child in the womb.
You keep writing viable. And we've already gone over the data. Abortions at 26 weeks or later are extremely rare and almost always are the result of a change in the viability of the baby or the health of the mother. Virtually no one is having elective abortions after 26 weeks.
LurkerMom: Oh the other hand though some (many) do not want to keep the life they helped to create other than because of a rape, incest or the health of the mother. Some of these same people though are out campaigning, save the whales or the snail living in the nearby pond.
Umm, what?
As we also already discussed, Trump is the dog that caught the abortion car and he's terrified. So he's saying, leave it to your conscience, leave it to the states.
What he's really saying though, is this: "All hail me, I ended abortion by packing the Supreme Court with Federalist justices that killed Roe after claiming during their confirmation hearings that it was settled law. So now I see republicans are getting slaughtered in elections for wanting a complete ban on abortion so I'm putting my tail between my legs and saying, state's rights, state's rights. So I'll be happy to support the most restrictive state abortion bans imaginable and will probably sign a 6-week national ban on all abortions, no exceptions."
Shorter: Trump acknowledges abortion laws are up to each state but declines to explicitly say whether or not he’d sign a nationwide abortion ban.
No. of Recommendations: 1
commonone:
And we've already gone over the data. Abortions at 26 weeks or later are extremely rare and almost always are the result of a change in the viability of the baby or the health of the mother. Virtually no one is having elective abortions after 26 weeks.Ya, sez you....
“Yes, late-term abortions are real, and they happen every day”
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“There is a concerted effort from the abortion lobby and its allies in media to convince Americans that there is no such thing as late term abortion. It isn’t true.
Just recently, Planned Parenthood President Alexis McGill claimed that: “Like Nessie and Bigfoot, the term ‘late-term abortion’ is completely made up. It’s anti-abortion propaganda with no basis in medicine, intended to confuse people.”
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:Likewise, former White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki echoed that “no one supports abortion up until birth,” and then later defended this claim on her MSNBC show: “This claim that Democrats support abortion up until the moment of birth is entirely misleading,” she said.
But the truth is that 10,000 babies’ lives are lost every year to late-term abortions, the majority of which take place for elective reasons.”
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“ claim, that “no one supports abortion up until birth,” has also been roundly debunked by the many members of her own party who refuse to name a single limit on abortion they would support. This includes Sens. Ben Cardin (D-Md.), Mark Kelly (D-Ariz.) and John Fetterman (D-Pa.); former gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams (D-Ga.); and former Reps. Beto O’Rourke (D-Tex.) and Tim Ryan (D-Ohio), among many others.”
https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/4182865-yes...we also already discussed, Trump is the dog that caught the abortion car and he's terrified. So he's saying, leave it to your conscience, leave it to the states.So what’s the problem here? The Supreme Court said the same thing. Abortion decisions are to be left up to each state.
What he's really saying though, is this: "All hail me, I ended abortion by packing the Supreme Court with Federalist justices that killed Roe after claiming during their confirmation hearings that it was settled law.Shrug, elections have consequences.
Shorter: Trump acknowledges abortion laws are up to each state but declines to explicitly say whether or not he’d sign a nationwide abortion ban.Why should he? It’s politics my dear, politics.
No. of Recommendations: 2
Trump's position is very simple.
The best way I've seen it put is like this:
Conservatives fought for 50 years to overturn Roe and put this back to the states. Now that Dobbs is the law of the land, it would be hypocritical to turn around and insist on a nationwide ban.
No. of Recommendations: 2
Conservatives fought for 50 years to overturn Roe and put this back to the states. Now that Dobbs is the law of the land, it would be hypocritical to turn around and insist on a nationwide ban.
Besides, the Constitution does not confer a right to abortion.
No. of Recommendations: 3
Not explicitly, no. It was involved with the right to privacy (mostly 4th Amendment, as I recall). I read the argument and reasoning. I don't think it is as solid as the forced servitude argument (13th Amendment). But I did understand the argument.
The Constitution also does not confer equal rights to women. The ERA was never ratified (even though, just a few years ago, they finally got enough states). But it appears that they are interpreting that every place it says "man" it means "people" (of any gender, ethnicity, etc). So, in effect, the ERA is reality even if it never officially passed. But it's still not part of the Constitution.
No. of Recommendations: 9
Conservatives fought for 50 years to overturn Roe and put this back to the states.
Sure. Let’s do the same with slavery.
Or we could have a country where human rights are observed in every locale, and we could try local experiments in other things like taxation, zoning, and education.
I dunno, I hope we don’t get to the point where Iowa decides to allow 10 year olds to go back to work in the mills because, you know, “state’s rights”. Oh wait, we’re on the way already.
No. of Recommendations: 3
Sure. Let’s do the same with slavery.
No need. Republicans went to war to put down democrat treason once already. Don't need to go there again after that.
Or we could have a country where human rights are observed in every locale, and we could try local experiments in other things like taxation, zoning, and education.
Sure. Let's start with the universal right to protect yoursel- ooops, can't have that in blue states. Criminals have more rights than regular citizens.
No. of Recommendations: 6
I hope we don’t get to the point where Iowa decides to allow 10 year olds to go back to work in the mills...------------------
There was a story in the news two weeks ago regarding a raid on a factory in Tennessee that was found to be employing kids under 16 years old. The firm makes parts for John Deere tractors.
Here is the announcement of the investigation from the Department of Labor:
https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/whd/whd20240...GREENVILLE, TN – The U.S. Department of Labor’s Office of the Solicitor has obtained a federal consent judgment that requires a Morristown manufacturer of outdoor power equipment components for major companies including John Deere, Toro and Yamaha to stop employing children illegally and to follow federal child labor laws in the future.
The judgment, which comes after the department’s Wage and Hour Division identified several children employed in dangerous jobs, includes a $296,951 civil money penalty. The employer must also set aside $1.5 million as disgorgement of 30 days’ profits related to its use of child labor. The proceeds paid by Tuff Torq will be used for the benefit of the children employed illegally.This is what Milton Friedman meant by "freedom to choose"... Do you want to:
* work in a slaughterhouse?
* work in a manufacturing plant stamping out lawnmower parts?
* work in a field picking lettuce
* or attend your Algebra II & Trig class and study for your SATs?
WTH
