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”A funny thing happened after ICE raided a meatpacking plant”

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“We’re told every day by the left and their media lapdogs that illegals only take the jobs (entitled) Americans refuse to do. It’s one of the biggest lies in American politics, cooked up in the backrooms of some smoky DNC office to sell this illegal invasion as some kind of favor to the rest of us.

But a funny thing happened in Nebraska this week that blew that tired, dusty old myth to bits. ICE raided Glenn Valley Foods, pulling off the largest worksite immigration raid in state history. Dozens of illegal workers were removed and deported on the spot.

And what happened next? Well, something the media and the left don’t want you to know…
The waiting room was jam-packed with American citizens lined up, applications in hand, eager to work. The very jobs we’re told no Americans want suddenly became hot commodities the moment the illegals were shown the door.

Trump ally Steve Cortes summed up this entire fiasco perfectly:
“So…immigration enforcement leads to a rush of applicants for those jobs from…American citizens!”

https://revolver.news/2025/06/a-funny-thing-happen...

Another democrat lie put to rest.

Interesting:

https://fortune.com/2025/06/12/glenn-valley-foods-...

The raid took place despite the company meticulously following the government’s own system for verifying the workers were in the country legally, owner Gary Rohwer said Wednesday.

Glenn Valley Foods now is operating at about 30% of capacity as the business scrambles to hire more workers, Rohwer said as he stood outside the plant.

Asked how upsetting the raid was, Rohwer replied, “I was very upset, ma’am, because we were told to e-verify, and we e-verified all these years, so I was shocked.”

“We did everything we could possibly do,” he said.

We’re told every day by the left and their media lapdogs that illegals only take the jobs (entitled) Americans refuse to do. It’s one of the biggest lies in American politics, cooked up in the backrooms of some smoky DNC office to sell this illegal invasion as some kind of favor to the rest of us.

Absolutely true! Which is why several red states are loosening child labor laws, so good old red blooded American children can have a shot at the American dream by working in a meat packing plant!

With all of those tariffs beginning to jack prices, millions of parents in low income households wii be saying “No school for you, today! It’s off to the meat packing plant for you!”

“We did everything we could possibly do,” he said.

Oh, did you? Did you vote for Trump? Did you donate to TrumpGrift, Inc?

Maybe you didn't do EVERYTHING possible.

I have seen this story before. ‘The Jungle’ by John Updike.

Iampops: I have seen this story before. ‘The Jungle’ by John Updike.

While John Updike was a fine, fine writer -- multiple winner of the National Book Award for Fiction, the Pulitzer Prize for Fiction, the National Book Critics Circle Award for both Fiction and Criticism, the PEN/Malamud Award, the PEN/Faulkner Award, the O. Henry Prize, and others -- it was Upton Sinclair who wrote 'The Jungle'.

Take some time away from the internet and read some Updike. He's probably most famous for his award-winning Rabbit Angstrom Tetralogy - Rabbit, Run; Rabbit Redux; Rabbit Is Rich; and Rabbit at Rest but you won't read a better post-war novel than Of the Farm. You may know him from the movie adaptation of his The Witches of Eastwick and he's written many, many exceptional short stories, including the collections The Maples Stories and Olinger Stories.

I'd forgotten what a fine writer he was... and you might be able to find some of his interviews online, too. He was remarkably articulate and whip smart. Like other fine writers of his generation -- Bernard Malamud, John Cheever, and to a lesser extent, Saul Bellow -- sadly, he has fallen out of favor.

It is a lie, but not a ‘democrat lie.’ The big four meat packing companies make their profits off of cheap labor provided largely by desperate immigrants working in dirty, unsafe conditions thanks to lax workers compensation laws allowing low compensation for work-related injuries, and little or no protection against huge amounts of air and water pollution.

That is why they all moved their plants to red states.

If desperate immigrants really were removed en masse from these jobs, and local citizens really did take those jobs, we would likely see an improvement in treatment and pay for our workers in the industry.

But we also would have to pay more for our meat. Which I think is a good thing because I am a liberal and have empathy for others.

You are a conservative and like most conservatives these days, you are sorely lacking in human empathy.

Yes. I know both authors well but misspeak a lot these days.

Absolutely true! Which is why several red states are loosening child labor laws, so good old red blooded American children can have a shot at the American dream by working in a meat packing plant!

Links please to back up your claims.

Teenagers want to earn money to help out or to have some earned money in their pocket.
I had some crummy jobs since the age of fourteen.
First was working at a Puerto Rican grocery store around the corner on Columbus ave where we lived. I worked hard and was proud of myself earning my own pocket money.

Why are you sticking up your nose at honest work for young folks?

Links please

https://www.floridapolicy.org/posts/fast-facts-hb-...


https://www.governing.com/workforce/whats-driving-...

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/project-2...

That is why they all moved their plants to red states.

Wrong.

The plants are located fairly close to where the animals are raised. This is a deliberate choice to reduce the cost and time of getting product to market.

Bill, Thank you for your links. Some interesting pros and cons.

The raid took place despite the company meticulously following the government’s own system for verifying the workers were in the country legally, owner Gary Rohwer said Wednesday.

Glenn Valley Foods now is operating at about 30% of capacity as the business scrambles to hire more workers, Rohwer said as he stood outside the plant.

Asked how upsetting the raid was, Rohwer replied, “I was very upset, ma’am, because we were told to e-verify, and we e-verified all these years, so I was shocked.”

“We did everything we could possibly do,” he said.

A thought: if the company did E-Verify for every employee and they all passed, did these employees commit identity theft and/or fraud?

That's not good.

A thought: if the company did E-Verify for every employee and they all passed, did these employees commit identity theft and/or fraud?

That's not good.

The answer is yes. That’s not good.

Identity theft and fraud go hand in hand with illegal immigration. It’s one of the things that few
Consider when discussing the issue - illegal immigration is at the root of MANY crimes. It’s more than just jumping the border.

A thought: if the company did E-Verify for every employee and they all passed, did these employees commit identity theft and/or fraud?

That's not good.

I was wondering the same thing.

I know you're originally from England (going back is looking good right now, isn't it?!). Perhaps you have first-hand knowledge of the system.

My (former) company also used the E-Verify system. But 1poorlady was a citizen by then. When she was hired, we had to do it all manually. We had to go to HR and produce the I-90 (as I recall...maybe they've changed the numbers?), and they would alert us when it was going to expire so we would have to get a new one (and present it to HR again). When she got her citizenship, we had to show that, and then it was 'done'. This was ~25 years ago.

A thought

More thoughts.

Did the company actually do the E-verify as claimed?

Does E-verify actually work?

Did hiring managers at the company coach applicants on how to pass E-verify by telling them where to get a SSN that will pass?

—Peter

A thought: if the company did E-Verify for every employee and they all passed

Mutually contradictory claims.

If they did E-Verify, then all rejected and told to "try again". Repeat ad infinitum.

Key point NOT mentioned: Define "they all passed". Was it GAS ????

How many duplicate SSNs/valid worker ID numbers were in the company's system for those "verified" workers? Did they even DO such a check? IMO, they did not.

how to pass E-verify by telling them where to get a SSN that will pass?

Simply, there are ZERO SSNs that will "pass" E-Verify--unless the valid SSN was actually issued to that worker. So, how would they get a valid SSN issued to them by SSA?

Good question, because migrant workers do not get SSNs, they get migrant worker visas (or something similar).

Perhaps you have first-hand knowledge of the system.

I don't. I haven't started a new employment while E-Verify has been in place, went self-employed just as soon as I was able.

Here's the wiki on it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Verify

E-Verify compares information from an employee's Employment Eligibility Verification Form I-9 to data from U.S. government records. If the information matches, that employee is eligible to work in the United States. If there is a mismatch, E-Verify alerts the employer and the employee is allowed to work while resolving the problem. Employees must contact the appropriate agency to resolve the mismatch within eight federal government work days from the referral date.

Simply, there are ZERO SSNs that will "pass" E-Verify--unless the valid SSN was actually issued to that worker. So, how would they get a valid SSN issued to them by SSA?<?I>

Ahh, Jerry. Your innocence is refreshing.

I'm not talking about getting an actual SSN in their name. I'm talking about obtaining a name/SSN combo that will pass E-verify. I guess I didn't make that part clear.

You need to think like a mob boss - something that many of us have learned about lately, but I learned about professionally as a CPA early in my training and career. Here's how it works.

The CEO tells the Vice President of operations that they need more workers. And to do whatever it takes to get those workers. (You'll note he doesn't tell the VP to break the law, but doesn't rule it out, either.) If he doesn't get the workers and stay within budget, the VP is going to get fired.

Then the VP tells the floor manager to get more people hired, and do it cheaply. He repeats the suggestion to do whatever it takes. The floor manager talks to the leads of each department that they need more folks, and it's time to refer anyone without an SSN to Guillermo on the other side of town. So the department leads put the word out and do a quick screen of the job applicants. Any that don't already have a SSN are told that the need to go talk to Guillermo to get an SSN. They let the applicants know that Guillermo charges $50 (or $100 or whatever) to assist them with getting an SSN.

No where along this chain does anyone say to do anything illegal. The CEO is removed from the day to day and has no idea what is happening down at the shop floor level. He just knows that they are required to use E-verify and has put that down as part of the company hiring procedure. The VP is likewise removed, perhaps only occasionally checking to see that there are E-verify reports in a sample of employee files. The floor manager only "knows" that Guillermo is a good resource for employees to obtain the necessary paperwork showing work authorization. (Of course, he actually knows what Guillermo does, but carefully makes sure there is no paper trail tying him to any knowledge. The office shredder is one of the most vital pieces of equipment.) The department leads - if their smart - know what's going on, but might still think that Guillermo is actually legit. And of course, the job applicants are so desperate for a job that they'll do whatever it takes to get a good steady job, so they follow the instructions they are given. And they likewise may not actually know they are committing fraud by doing this. They might think this is just how you get a SSN so you can work in the US.

Naturally, it's the job applicants who are most at risk here. Most everyone else has plausible deniability. Of course, everyone in management knows very well what is happening, but is careful to distance themselves from any evidence of knowledge. It's all winks and nods, with nothing written down. So the company gets off scot-free while the workers are the ones to pay the price if things are discovered.

--Peter

PS - This is also why Trump sincerely doesn't know much about what is going on in his administration. He is always careful to have limited knowledge so that others take the fall when things go south.

Ahh, Jerry. Your innocence is refreshing.

I'm not talking about getting an actual SSN in their name. I'm talking about obtaining a name/SSN combo that will pass E-verify. I guess I didn't make that part clear.

(chuckle><chuckle>

They can't get one. That is the point. They submit ANY SSN+name combination and it will fail.

To pass E-Verify, an existing SSN+name must match--AND it can NOT be in use by anyone else. It also can not be that of a dead person (SSA keeps those records). That is where your logic fails. The employer has eight days to get it right--or else. So the employer does NOTHING when the E-Verify system rejects the request. How does an employer keep people on the payroll? They ignore the law because the cost is too high to NOT do so--and they get rewarded for it with cheap, low-cost, disposable labor.

We have all seen the results when management faces going to jail. So, your claims are totally irrational.

To pass E-Verify, an existing SSN+name must match--AND it can NOT be in use by anyone else.

Huh? So I can't move jobs? I can't have two jobs?

Huh? So I can't move jobs? I can't have two jobs?

Working MORE than 168 hours per week?

Working TWO (or MORE) full-time day jobs 8am-5pm, on the same day, in states hundreds or thousands of miles apart?

There are LOTS of different flags the SSA can see to identify duplicate FAKE SSNs.

Working MORE than 168 hours per week?

Working TWO (or MORE) full-time day jobs 8am-5pm, on the same day, in states hundreds or thousands of miles apart?

There are LOTS of different flags the SSA can see to identify duplicate FAKE SSNs.

They could...but do they?

They could...but do they?

Yes. Otherwise, they would be unable to deny benefits to anyone.

<<They could...but do they?>>

Yes. Otherwise, they would be unable to deny benefits to anyone.

Huh? We're talking about E-Verify. A one-time check that a given name matches a given SSN, and the SSN is valid, i.e. not a dead person.

Working MORE than 168 hours per week?

SSA does not know how many hours you work, or that your new employer plans to have you work. Homeland security only knows if the name/SSN is authorized to work in the US.

Working TWO (or MORE) full-time day jobs 8am-5pm, on the same day, in states hundreds or thousands of miles apart?

Again, SSA does not know your work hours. They also do not know your work location. They only know your employer's address (which may not be the work location) and the employee's home address.

There are LOTS of different flags the SSA can see to identify duplicate FAKE SSNs.

SSA has a bunch of identity information, but know virtually nothing about your work. All the SSA gets related to your working is your W-2. They only know your wages (not your hourly rate, nor the number of hours worked). They don't know the days worked. They don't know where you actually perform your work.

All the information used in E-Verify is contained on the I-9. Name, address, birthdate, SSN, optional e-mail and phone, and potentially an additional identification number for green card holders and those on temporary work visas.

There are LOTS of different flags the SSA can see to identify duplicate FAKE SSNs.

There simply isn't. It's just a check that the name, SSN (or other ID number), and birthdate match.

--Peter

A one-time check that a given name matches a given SSN, and the SSN is valid, i.e. not a dead person.

If valid, then it is fairly quick (seconds/minutes).

Is it a *unique* SSN number not used by anyone else? Prior employment using that SSN?

Migrants do not usually have a SSN, they would have a work visa and maybe TIN (again, another unique ID).

If valid, then it is fairly quick (seconds/minutes).

E-Verify is intended to give results in a few seconds.

Is it a *unique* SSN number not used by anyone else?

The check is if the name and SSN and birthdate all match the SSA's records.

Prior employment using that SSN?

That is not checked. It provides no information. People change jobs all the time.

Migrants do not usually have a SSN, they would have a work visa

If you are a foreigner authorized to work in the US, you will get a SSN. You also get a separate ID number (a USCIS A-Number or a Form I-94 Admission number). That number is required to be included on the I-9 the employee gives to the employer, and is included in the E-Verify information. I would hazard a guess that info is sent to Homeland Security rather than SSA to check that the individual is still authorized to work in the US.

TINs are reserved for foreigners who do not work in the US but have US source income and need to pay US income taxes. They are issued by the IRS, not the SSA.



I think the big thing you are missing in all of this is that the "Guillermo" I referred to in an earlier post is a guy who has gathered info on valid name/SSA/birthdate combos. That is fairly easily done if you know how to navigate the dark web. He is the guy who can comb through his list of valid combos to find and name and birthdate suitable to the person needing one. He might also provide (or know a separate source) to get a good quality fake ID or other info needed to "prove" identity.

Employers are easily tacit accomplices in this, in that they are only required to attest that they examined the identification presented. They are not required to retain copies. They can accept fake IDs without any liability on their part. (If they choose to keep copies of the ID, they must do so for all employees, not just selected employees.)


--Peter

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