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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: The Shroud of Orange Jesus
Date: 12/13/2023 8:29 AM
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For the measly small sum of just $4,653, you can become the proud owner of the complete "MugShot Edition" set of Orange Jesus digital trading cards PLUS, while supplies last, a special "priceless" collectable card with an actual piece of the suit he was arrested in, the so-called Fulton County "MugShot Suit," the "Most Historically Significant Artifact in United States History." Yeah, the promotional material actually says that. Some cards will even be one-of-ones (the only one in the world), while some others could even be hand-signed by President Donald J. Trump himself!!!

You'll get Cowboy Orange Jesus, Cyborg Orange Jesus, Lincoln Monument Orange Jesus, Lightning Bolts Orange Jesus, and so many more... but only if you're a complete moron or are a card-carrying member of the Trump Cult.

Wait, that's the same thing.

Can you imagine if former president Obama were to carnival bark collectible pieces of his "tan suit" with moronic superhero NFTs? Jesus, republicans would never stop crying MAGA tears.


Order your set today: https://collecttrumpcards.com/
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Author: EchotaSheeple   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: The Shroud of Orange Jesus
Date: 12/13/2023 8:54 AM
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After Jesus left the world.....

Did he have any continued influence?



Yep.



Keep it up, oh TrumpObsessed.

Hint: Your country will be poorer, more divided, poorer, and more violent when he's gone.

Haha.

Eventually, the mayhem will come for insulated Liberals.

Some -- are working on it in tiny ways.
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Author: Gator1984   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: The Shroud of Orange Jesus
Date: 12/13/2023 5:21 PM
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Please stop with the Orange J____ descriptor. I find it offensive. Maybe others find it offensive as well.
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Subject: Re: The Shroud of Orange Jesus
Date: 12/13/2023 5:43 PM
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While I don't use that term myself, given how many of his followers speak of him, it's sort of appropriate. Evangelicals especially see him as a sort of semi-savior. I can't say I understand why, though most evangelicals do not practice was Jesus is alleged to have taught. Not even close. And neither does Trump.

But this is the "Atheist" board, so don't expect any deference to any religion here. I find them all comparably absurd, and varying degrees of evil (depending on which religion).
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Author: Boater   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: The Shroud of Orange Jesus
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"But this is the "Atheist" board...."

politics by any other name is still politics.
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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: The Shroud of Orange Jesus
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Gator1984: Please stop with the Orange J____ descriptor. I find it offensive. Maybe others find it offensive as well.

The name was coined by Republican Congressman Mark Green. Take it up with him. Besides, there are plenty of evangelicals who have said Trump is the second coming of Jesus or is the Chosen One. Trump literally said: "I am the chosen one."

For the easily offended, there's the frowny face.
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: The Shroud of Orange Jesus
Date: 12/13/2023 7:07 PM
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For the easily offended, there's the frowny face.

Yep for sure. Not Offended but don’t want to see this Board go the way of the PA, so not to pay back in kind, the frowny face keeps me on the right track and I don’t see any of this person’s post at all.
Sweet.
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: The Shroud of Orange Jesus
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In fairness, I don't think Trump is even remotely religious. So he may have been trying to scam the evangelicals, or maybe he was referring to his "being the only one that fix this" (whatever he thought he was fixing in 2019 when he said it). I don't buy the "it was a joke" because, frankly, Trump has no sense of humor at all.
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Subject: Re: The Shroud of Orange Jesus
Date: 12/13/2023 9:11 PM
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milking MAGA rubes is easily the most successful enterprise in the history of genius businessman donald trump.

just consider the ROIC for a capital-light business (of course, someone else's of capital to make the website, run the servers, and deliver enough scrap fabric to make a dozen suits).
touting these kind of profit metrics should open up a few more loans from DB and other prestige banks.


"...in 2021, Forbes found that Trump, 77, would be far richer had he simply invested the inheritance he got from his father..."

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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Date: 12/13/2023 9:26 PM
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"...in 2021, Forbes found that Trump, 77, would be far richer had he simply invested the inheritance he got from his father..."

I remember that. I think they were specific, and said "S&P500". So just doing an index, he would have been better off than all of his "brilliant" business deals.

Of course, the index beats most(?) active traders and managers, too.
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Author: very stable genius   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: The Shroud of Orange Jesus
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weatherman: "milking MAGA rubes is easily the most successful enterprise in the history of genius businessman donald trump.
...in 2021, Forbes found that Trump, 77, would be far richer had he simply invested the inheritance he got from his father..."

100%
In 1982 For­bes magazine estimated Donald Trumps net worth to be $200 million.
If he invested Dad's $200 Million into the S&P 500 in 1982, he would have over $20 Billion today.
Instead Forbes current estimate of his net worth is $2.6 Billion.

Donald Trump could have quit working in 1982. He could have invested his Dad's fortune in the S&P 500 and he would be much wealthier today.
Instead he spent the last 50 years of his life cheating students at his scam university
and cheating the donors to his fake children's cancer charity and cheating at golf and
cheating to get out of military service and cheating on all of his wives and cheating on his business records.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/article/...

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/why-probably-better...
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Author: sheila727   😊 😞
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Instead he spent the last 50 years of his life cheating students at his scam university and cheating the donors to his fake children's cancer charity and cheating at golf and cheating to get out of military service and cheating on all of his wives and cheating on his business records.

Of course. It's a lot more fun, in his view, and makes him feel like he really accomplished something.
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Subject: Re: The Shroud of Orange Jesus
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I think Trump was designated the new King Cyrus. They see him as allowing the temple to be rebuilt and one step closer to the rapture. When he moved the American embassy, they saw the hand of God moving. So he is an instrument. He is the chosen one to help rebuild the temple and the end of days will happen. There are different cults within churches and many are tied to end of days - it's popular, better than snake handling. In my youth in Texas I'd see bumper stickers declaring that in case of rapture the pick up would be unmanned.

How he has such a hold on the non-religious might be that he allows them to be as bigoted and non PC as they want to be. And any limit on guns is a slippery slope and must be stopped. We put our thumb on the democracy scales in the electoral college and pay a price for that.
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Of course. It's a lot more fun, in his view, and makes him feel like he really accomplished something.

And fed his narcissistic vanity and made him feel like the winner he's always desperately wanted to be.
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The name was coined by Republican Congressman Mark Green. Take it up with him. Besides, there are plenty of evangelicals who have said Trump is the second coming of Jesus or is the Chosen One. Trump literally said: "I am the chosen one."

For the easily offended, there's the frowny face.


And here are some other possibilities that might be more acceptable to some:

Apricot Anarchist
Cantaloupe Conman
Carrot Kingpin
Coral Colluder
Peach Prevaricator
Salmon Savior
Tangerine Treasonist
Titian Toddler

I'm kind of liking that last one the most! 😊
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Author: very stable genius   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: The Shroud of Orange Jesus
Date: 12/14/2023 2:36 PM
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In this thread Gator1984 says:
"Please stop with the Orange Jesus descriptor. I find it offensive. Maybe others find it offensive as well."

In the Elon thread Gator1984 said:
"That is one of the main reasons Elon deserves praise. At the risk to personal attacks, he has championed free speech for himself and others. Isn't that what America is all about!" (Post #8948)

You gotta love consistency!
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Author: sheila727   😊 😞
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In this thread Gator1984 says:
"Please stop with the Orange Jesus descriptor. I find it offensive. Maybe others find it offensive as well."

In the Elon thread Gator1984 said:
"That is one of the main reasons Elon deserves praise. At the risk to personal attacks, he has championed free speech for himself and others. Isn't that what America is all about!" (Post #8948)

You gotta love consistency!


Rec'd this post. And if I could, would rec it again....and again and again and again!
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: The Shroud of Orange Jesus
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And here are some other possibilities that might be more acceptable to some:

Apricot Anarchist
Cantaloupe Conman
Carrot Kingpin
Coral Colluder
Peach Prevaricator
Salmon Savior
Tangerine Treasonist
Titian Toddler

I'm kind of liking that last one the most! 😊


My choice would be the ‘Orange God’.

More fitting or maybe ‘MEGA God’ 😇
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: The Shroud of Orange Jesus
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LM: My choice would be the ‘Orange God’.

More fitting or maybe ‘MEGA God’ 😇


Ah, yes, God put Trump on Earth to test you. And you fell short. Better hope she's a kind and forgiving God. Somehow, if she really does exist, I think she would be kind and forgiving.
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Ah, yes, God put Trump on Earth to test you. And you fell short.

Sigh..does that mean I’m going to liberal Hell? ;)
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Fair enough.

This board content has certainly turned very mean. Finding it hard to get any value.

By the way, looks like the demise of the banks was greatly exaggerated. Most large and regional banks are flat to up for the year. WFC is up now over 20%, not from the low, but from the beginning of the year. Seems the deposit outflows were less material than many thought. Margins and profits held up just fine. I hope you followed me in.

I did start selling some today.

Would be nice to spend a little more time defending investment ideas than political ones. Just MHO.
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Subject: Re: The Shroud of Orange Jesus
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One more thing to share.

I don't see Elon Musk's comments as name calling. Free speech is about sharing thoughts and ideas.

Orange Jesus comments convey neither, IMO.

It is just a form of name calling.
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Subject: Re: The Shroud of Orange Jesus
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Please stop with the Orange J____ descriptor.

How about .... OJ?

You can think of it as Orange Judas, while the atheists recall evangelists proclaiming 'He's just like Jesus."

https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-share...

“He’s everything a Christian shouldn’t be. He’s about money and himself, he uses God’s word to his benefit, he doesn’t respect Christian holidays, he insults everyone. And he dishonors his wife, his daughter and all women,” Morales said.

“These people waiting in line for five hours, listening to wonderful Christian music, once they get to that sacred auditorium they hear Trump insult other people … It’s a holy place but Trump does not respect that.”


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/03/tr...
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I don't see Elon Musk's comments as name calling. Free speech is about sharing thoughts and ideas.

Orange Jesus comments convey neither, IMO.

It is just a form of name calling.


Presumably you have been equally offended by the scads of names that Trump has called others? Or at least willing to acknowledge that "Turnabout is fair play"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nicknames_us...
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Presumably you have been equally offended by the scads of names that Trump has called others? Or at least willing to acknowledge that "Turnabout is fair play"?

To add: it's one thing for Joe Schmoe on a message board to call a public figure a name. It's a whole other thing when the President of the United States, the supposed "Leader of the Free World", does it to his own colleagues.
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Subject: Re: The Shroud of Orange Jesus
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There is a group of boards under "investing strategies". Not too much chat about investing on this board. But it is on the site.

No, I didn't buy any banks. Don't trust them. I really don't buy anything in the financial sector. Technology and some retail (i.e. COST). Well...V is part of the financial sector, and I own that.
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Ah, yes, God put Trump on Earth to test you. And you fell short.

Sigh..does that mean I’m going to liberal Hell? ;)


No, Satan is conservative, God is liberal... so you have a chance. Repent, sinner! Repent! Say 30 Hail Mary's and a double Benjamin into the collections box on the way out. :)
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No, Satan is conservative, God is liberal... so you have a chance. Repent, sinner! Repent! Say 30 Hail Mary's and a double Benjamin into the collections box on the way out. :)

You are making life very difficult for me, I guess I am going to go to Hell and hang out with
the conservative Satan. 🥵🔥
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This board content has certainly turned very mean. Finding it hard to get any value.

Actually there is a great deal of value. And mostly it is coming from the posters on this board who are centrist or lean left. From the right it is mostly just regurgitated right wing media lies and propaganda. The contrast is stark. That is where our politics is right now.

Now, if you're really concerned about mean then pay attention to Trump.
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I don't see Elon Musk's comments as name calling. Free speech is about sharing thoughts and ideas.

Orange Jesus comments convey neither, IMO.


Wow. Elon Musk is promoting hate speech. I'd say that is worse than mocking Trump as Orange Jesus.
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LM: You are making life very difficult for me, I guess I am going to go to Hell and hang out with
the conservative Satan. 🥵🔥


Oh no, there is still time. Come to the light! Come to the light! One practices a fatherly love for his prodigal son, the other teaches his sons and daughters how to lie and grift. Remember, it never comes the way we want it, but it is easy to see, if you look.
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Oh no, there is still time. Come to the light! Come to the light! One practices a fatherly love for his prodigal son, the other teaches his sons and daughters how to lie and grift. Remember, it never comes the way we want it, but it is easy to see, if you look.

You are confusing me..The last sermon I attended I was told the Fatherly love for his prodigal son was actually the love of money and taught his son how to be a good bagman. The other father taught his sons to shun all alcohol drinks and drugs and carry on the family business, employing hundreds of grateful people, paying their taxes on time. Hmmm, Hell isn’t so bad after all.
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<Wow. Elon Musk is promoting hate speech. I'd say that is worse than mocking Trump as Orange Jesus.>

100%

Elon Musk expresses support for antisemitic post on X, calling it "the actual truth."

"The post's sentiment echoes some antisemitic conspiracy theories claiming that Jewish people want to bring in minorities to weaken White majorities.
That belief was espoused by convicted murderer Robert Bowers, who raged against Jewish people online before shooting 11 people dead at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh in 2018."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elon-musk-antisemitic...
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I would argue that God is the conservative. And if you violate his rules, you are smited. Or he orders someone to do it for him (usually). Satan is the liberal. He isn't hung up on gay people, unwed sex, or anything of the sort. It's all good with him.

Heck, if the snake in Genesis was Satan, he's the only one who told the truth in that whole story.
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God is the conservative. And if you violate his rules, you are smited. Or he orders someone to do it for him (usually).

Stochastic terrorism.

Oh, God said to Abraham, "Kill me a son"
Abe say, "Man, you must be puttin' me on"
God say, "No", Abe say, "What?"
God say, "You can do what you want Abe
But the next time you see me comin', you better run"
Well, Abe said, "Where you want this killin' done?"
God said, "Out on Highway 61"
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This isn't about Trump and whether he serves to be name called. For me the issue is you are disrespecting Jesus. Call Trump anything you want. Just don't include Jesus in the name.

But keep in mind. Even if Trump chooses a low class path and comments inappropriately on others, you may not want to follow his example.

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I agree 100%.

By the way,

Did our current President ever apologize to the border patrol over the whipping comments?

Did our current President ever apologize to the young man that was found not guilty for shooting in self defense? I hope this kid sues Biden when he leaves office for his ridiculous comments.

Both Biden and Trump have followed a very low class path. I can only hope that neither of them will be our next President.
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Oh, God said to Abraham, "Kill me a son"
Abe say, "Man, you must be puttin' me on"
God say, "No", Abe say, "What?"
God say, "You can do what you want Abe
But the next time you see me comin', you better run"
Well, Abe said, "Where you want this killin' done?"
God said, "Out on Highway 61"


Bob Dylan
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Subject: Re: The Shroud of Orange Jesus
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Did our current President ever apologize to the young man that was found not guilty for shooting in self defense?

Apologize to the piece of shit who waded into a demonstration with a borrowed high power rifle and shot the people he terrorized?

On what page of the yer holier-than-thou religious novel does Jesus describe antagonizing a crowd with an a lethal weapon and then killing the people who recognize the danger the weapon poses ?

Apologize my ass. He's exactly the kind of scum OrangeJesus would pardon and tote along to rallies.
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This isn't about Trump and whether he serves to be name called. For me the issue is you are disrespecting Jesus. Call Trump anything you want. Just don't include Jesus in the name.

This is an atheist board. We'll mot worry to much about offending you. You may leave any time you want. Please don't clutter up the board.
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Pardon. The courts found him innocent. Which he is. If Biden believed in our legal system he should have been first in line to set the record straight and apologize. But his kind never apologize.

Your views on this topic demonstrate to me how extreme and absurd your views are.

You are hardly a centralist.

You are typical extremist. Right or left. Does not matter. Facts don't matter.

You just want to pound out your views.

The good news is you get to live with them.

As always, have a nice day!



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Subject: Re: The Shroud of Orange Jesus
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The courts found him innocent.




<<" “Not guilty” is a verdict given by a judge and/or jury at the end of a criminal trial, while “innocent” refers to a person’s character and moral beliefs.
A person found “not guilty” may not necessarily be innocent of the crime, as it may only mean that the prosecution failed to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt.
Legally, the term “innocent” is used as a presumption, meaning that the defendant is presumed innocent until proven guilty.">>

Had the punk been found guilty on weapons charges, provoking and killing 2 people, he'd have been a classic case for a Trump pardon.

As it was, Biden said the system worked and the killer went free.

Jesus wept. Orange Jesus pandered.
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Gator1984: Pardon. The courts found him innocent. Which he is. If Biden believed in our legal system he should have been first in line to set the record straight and apologize. But his kind never apologize.

Set the record straight? And "his kind"?

First of all, president Biden did issue a statement saying that the verdict "will leave many Americans feeling angry and concerned, myself included," but that "we must acknowledge that the jury has spoken." Biden urged people to refrain from violence and property destruction and said he had contacted Wisconsin's governor to offer "support and any assistance needed to ensure public safety."

https://www.npr.org/2021/11/19/1057288807/kyle-rit...

And Biden has made many apologies during his political career, easily found with Google.

Second, you're hilarious. To this day Orange Jesus refuses to apologize to the Central Park Five.

President Trump said on Tuesday that he would not apologize for his harsh comments in 1989 about the Central Park Five, the five black and Latino men who as teenagers were wrongly convicted of the brutal rape of a jogger in New York City.

Mr. Trump was asked about newspaper advertisements he bought back then calling for New York State to adopt the death penalty after the attack. (The ads never explicitly called for the death penalty for the five defendants.)

"You have people on both sides of that," he said at the White House.


Both sides of what?

The attack on Meili was an assault committed by a man named Matias Reyes, who confessed to the crime, an admission confirmed by DNA evidence.

If there ever was a poster boy for the "his kind" who never apologizes, it's Orange Jesus.

He didn't apologize for the deaths of over a million Americans that resulted from his refusal to take swift action against the COVID-19 virus, discouraging masking, not encouraging vaccination, and by pretending the COVID-19 virus would magically disappear.

He didn’t apologize during the 2016 campaign when he made fun of McCain for being a prisoner of war.

He didn’t apologize to Mexicans for calling them rapists.

When asked if he owed vice president Pence an apology for the January 6 rioters wanting to hang him, Trump said: "No, because he did something wrong."

He didn’t apologize for his menstruation jibe at Megyn Kelly or retweeting that she was a "bimbo."

He didn’t apologize to Carly Fiorina for calling her ugly.

He didn't apologize for calling Ted Cruz's wife ugly.

He didn’t apologize for calling Haiti and African countries s***holes.

And as for Kyle Rittenhouse, I don't think karma is quite through with him yet: he's being sued in civil court where he won't be facing inept prosecutors and his crying on the witness stand while his mother weeps in the courtroom is likely to be less effective the second time around.
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: The Shroud of Orange Jesus
Date: 12/16/2023 12:47 PM
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But his kind never apologize.

Exactly what do you mean by that? I don't recall Trump being known for apologies, so that seems to be a very broad category and you are only focusing on Biden. Google Biden apologizes and review. Do you owe us an apology for that remark?
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But his kind never apologize.

"His kind"? Just exactly what is 'his kind'?

If you think Trump is a better man then you are deluded.
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